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Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK

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scott#2

09-30-2005 08:29:14




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Im finally going to try to paint tomorrow. How long should I wait between primer and topcoat?

Also can I use very slow hardner (MH169)and slow reducer(MR187) for 70-80 degrees outside temp?

Or should they both be slow?
Thanks,

scott#2




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CNKS

09-30-2005 17:28:28




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 Re: Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK in reply to scott#2, 09-30-2005 08:29:14  
I believe the spec sheet says it dries in 30 minutes. In case Rod doesn't show up, here is his recommendation on reducers and hardeners.



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scott#2

09-30-2005 17:51:35




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 Re: Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK in reply to CNKS, 09-30-2005 17:28:28  
Thanks CNKS, I looked at that chart. The thing is though, what I have is the medium reducer and the very slow hardner. Thats all the paint shop had and I am wondering if I can use them together without any problems. Or should I wait till Monday and get the slow hardner?

Thanks,

scott



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Rod (NH)

09-30-2005 18:41:34




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 Re: Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK in reply to scott#2, 09-30-2005 17:51:35  
Scott,

I haven't used that combination but I don't think you would have a problem with the mix. I have some of the MH169 but can't say that I have ever used any of it, so I don't know how it works at cooler temps. I'll agree with CNKS and say that I think the reducer selection is a little more important since that determines how much evaporates between leaving the gun and hitting the surface. A slower-than-normal reducer is slower in evaporating and will leave more remaining in the film after application. The result is great flowout but also a greater tendency to run.

I think you'll be OK, especially if you are in the upper 70s. The ranges I provided previously are my own, rather arbitrary ones since I was unsuccessful in getting PPG to define 'em. The rules are not hard and fast and there can be considerable overlap. It depends a lot on technique as to how slow an additive you can handle w/o getting runs. You are a little on the hot side, I think, so don't pile it on, don't linger and try to keep a uniform gun-to-surface distance. At least if you get a run, it's fairly easy to correct with the MTK.

Rod

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scott#2

09-30-2005 19:03:49




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 Re: Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK in reply to Rod (NH), 09-30-2005 18:41:34  
Thanks Rod & CNKS, we will see how it goes tomorrow. Im going to shoot both primer & top coat on the main tractor part and a bunch of other parts. (leaving that troublesome grill and other tin for last.) At least I can get that sealed up for winter if I cant get back and finish it off this year. I'll post pics of that 71310 "special mix" if Im not too beatup tomorrow evening.

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CNKS

09-30-2005 18:00:15




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 Re: Minimum time between spraying MP170 and MTK in reply to scott#2, 09-30-2005 17:51:35  
I don't believe I have used that specific combination, but I don't think you will have any problems. I have used reducers that were out of range, but not hardeners -- seems to me that the reducer would be more important as it determines the flash time. Perhaps Rod will see this and give a more definite answer.



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