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Painting Front Grill Emblem

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Kendog

12-03-2005 03:53:52




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They deliver as unpainted stamped aluminum, so what paint gives the best adhesion that will not simply scratch off this aluminum? Masking off the letters or buffing off is not a problem. Urethane-enamel, enamel, laquer? Thanks




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Kendog

12-04-2005 16:48:30




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 Re: Painting Front Grill Emblem in reply to Kendog, 12-03-2005 03:53:52  
Can the primer be purchased in small spray-cans or only commercial size quantities. Napa, AutoZone, etc., or do I need a specialty paint house?



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Rod (NH)

12-05-2005 19:59:08




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 Re: Painting Front Grill Emblem in reply to Kendog, 12-04-2005 16:48:30  
If you talking about etch primers, I am not a fan of them in general and don't use them. I think most are two-part products that have a usable pot life of only a few hours after mixing the parts and are therefore not appropriate for rattle can sales. I do recall seeing some reference to something called an etch primer in a rattle can but don't know anything about it. The typical epoxy would also not be available in rattle cans for the same reason as the typical etch primer. If you decide on etch primer, be sure to read all the instructions for the specific product you are considering. Etch primers usually recommend another type of primer (such as epoxy or a surfacer-type primer) on top prior to any color coat for the best performance. These products are usually available where automotive refinish products are sold - typically a distributor for PPG, DuPont or other automotive paint manufacturer. The NAPA stores in my area are distributors for Martin Senour products. They usually have similar products to PPG and DuPont. These items are typically available in quarts as the smallest size except for possibly the color coats in the more expensive lines. If all you have to do is an emblem and have no other use for the products, I don't have a decent solution for you. I think you will find it too expensive for just a single small job. My only suggestion in that case would be to scuff the surface with a general purpose Scotch-Brite pad to remove any oxidation and provide a little mechanical scratch. You could also use the cleaners/conditioner products I mentioned before. They are in liquid form (quarts) and are not that expensive. They are also best applied with a Scotch-Brite pad. Then use whatever primer and paint type you are using on the rest of your project.

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Rod (NH)

12-03-2005 18:55:29




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 Re: Painting Front Grill Emblem in reply to Kendog, 12-03-2005 03:53:52  
Hi,

What Frank says, plus if you want to use a direct epoxy primer alternative to etch primer w/o sandblasting, use a chemical pretreatment specific for aluminum. In the DuPont line, use 225S/226S, aluminum cleaner/conversion coating. PPG's equivalent products are DX533/DX503, aluminum cleaner/conditioner. Any type of topcoat paint would be fine with that preparation.

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Frank Stalfire

12-03-2005 17:42:35




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 Re: Painting Front Grill Emblem in reply to Kendog, 12-03-2005 03:53:52  
Ken.. you need to etch the aluminum, either by mechanical means like sandblasting or chemically by using acid etch primer which will etch the aluminum with acid. mostly evryone will use the primer since it's non destructive



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