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1466 vs. 4630

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john hopkins

07-03-2002 15:29:14




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I am looking to buy a smoker tractor. I have found two tractors that are priced reasonable. of course they are just stock. Which would you pullers buy? Which would be stronger and easier and cheaper to build. I see those 1466's beat 4430's al day long, but I don't know about it beating the big 4630. Thanks




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Obie

03-21-2004 18:01:21




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 Re: 1466 vs. 4630 in reply to john hopkins, 07-03-2002 15:29:14  
Me being a green man at heart would probabl tell you that building a red one would be the cheaper route to take if you really want to build a smoker. However, we pull both a 4440 and a 4455 that we farm with and have been quite succesful beating red ones. We can get our 4440 down to 12,500 lbs with a cab on it and I'd hate to see what it dyno's at with the pump opened up 2.25 rounds, but it'll blow fire on a warm summer night off the line. We've pulled against a lot of IH 1466's and 1066's that have tried installing bigger injectors and the like and we've still been able to come out on top. One of the owners of the 1066 we pull against is a good friend of mine that I pit with and we talk openly about weight configuration and hitch height, so there's no secrets other than which tractor has more snorts. I'd say the 466 is a tough engine to beat, so as another individual said, I'd try to find a 40 series or newer that you could start with.

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JDJIM

07-04-2002 08:11:35




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 Re: 1466 vs. 4630 in reply to john hopkins, 07-03-2002 15:29:14  
Go with the 1466 . The 66's are cheaper to buy and with a little know how you can make a good puller out of it with a lot less $$$$ than the GREEN . There are lots of parts around for them , you might have to search a little but they are there , and so many combinations you can go with .
I pulled with a 4630 in the late '70s , in 16,000 stock and some dyno 225hp classes , anything lighter you couldn't ballance it right . I still pull a '76 4430 in 12,14 & 16,000 now and then and I think it will do more than a 4630 . I'll say this though the 4430 has 4630 pump and injectors in it , still the original 404 with 6,000hrs and never been touched . I have been pulling Deeres since 1975 , besides the two mentioned I have a nice old 4020 and I had a 4640 which I pulled up to 3yrs ago . I used to run the pump wide open and 3000rpm , in 16 & 18,000lb class it was REAL hard to beat . That is about the only time I could get ahead of the RED ones .
Anyway , I love pulling Deere Tractors but the most "BANG for the BUCK" is the RED especially the 66 Series . I totally agree with what G-MAN says about the later 44 series and the 466 but they are pricey to buy and build compared to the 66 Farmalls . I have a couple close friends that have 1066's and have made them good pullers with out spending a lot . We were going to switch tractors at a local pull a couple years ago but decieded not to , we didn't want to be responsible for the heart atacks it would've caused when I hooked with a RED one . Jim

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Disturbed 1066

07-03-2002 18:47:09




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 Re: 1466 vs. 4630 in reply to john hopkins, 07-03-2002 15:29:14  
The 1466 will walk over any deere with the right work. It will also be cheaper to do any mods. to. I've seen good running deere's but it takes green to play with Green. Simple as that. Thanks



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G-MAN

07-03-2002 16:21:55




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 Re: 1466 vs. 4630 in reply to john hopkins, 07-03-2002 15:29:14  
Well, providing this is a serious post and not the opening shot of a color war (people will take you more seriously if you post an email address), you're probably going to be better off with the 1466 for cheaper horsepower. The "big" 4630 you refer to has the same cubic inches as a 4430, with the addition of an intercooler. The 4630 is only rated about 25 hp more than the 4430. The 404 engine in these tractors is wound pretty tight in a 4630, and has basically no torque-curve. Once you get below rated rpm, power drops off in a hurry. The 1466 has a 436 cubic engine, I believe, so you're giving up 32 cubes with the 4630. If you're serious about building a Deere, think about an open station 40/50/55 series Deere (4440, 4450, 4255, etc). They aren't much heavier than the 4430 and are equipped with a 466 engine that has much more potential than the 404. You could install a 466 in a 4630, but after all the time and bother, you could have a 40/50/55 series. I've seen stock 4440s pull 240 hp on the dyno. I'm not saying they would live long at that level in a field situation, but it gives you some idea of the potential. I'm also pretty sure that the quad-range trans is going to be able to handle anything you want to throw at it, providing it's in good shape and there is a reasonable amount of common sense behind the wheel. Binders are pretty easy to build horsepower with, but a good hand with Deeres can make a good running tractor, also. You could also get one of the tractors I mentioned pretty light if you remove the right parts and want to get serious. You could even install a narrow front on one if you wanted. One of our customers has a sweet 4255 and an equally nice 4055 open-station that I drool over every time I see them. They both have the 6076 engine (466) and all I can see is installing a 4955 pump, nozzles, turbo and intercooler and going pulling at about 11,000 pounds. Maybe some day..... ..

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