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BILL

03-15-2004 12:34:13

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Did you see the 600 case that won the 5500 open class,not many RPM but massive torque

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poorboy

03-17-2004 13:56:54

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Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BILL, 03-15-2004 12:34:13

i dont think that a m farmal could even pull that case down hill to start it.

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Doug

03-15-2004 20:35:09

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Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BILL, 03-15-2004 12:34:13

I heard The 600 Case had $3,000.00 in it,,,,, Now how much does it cost to build a Moline????? ? HMMMMM MMM Sounds like cheap horse power to me Whatcha Think?

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Concerned

03-15-2004 18:26:33

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Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BILL, 03-15-2004 12:34:13

Whos the chicken S that wont sign their own name to their comments, Because Dennis Craft did not write this , He is interested in having a good time ,not trying to cause trouble like you are, And also the 855 cummins came out of a 9170 international tractor. Do youe home work

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LARRY

03-15-2004 15:47:50

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Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BILL, 03-15-2004 12:34:13

Yes I was their also, I did have the opportunity to speak with John Lampkin of the USAP on Sat. He is a very fine business man and does have his pullers at heart,which is great.I am also a puller in the farmers class.I never did have enough money to build something fast ,but I do a fair job of building something that runs ,put a car wash paint job on it and go.and have done good enough to place first in a class of 14 and be in the hook, picture and all. but on the concerned part the 5500 open at fruitland sunday, That was not a USAP pull but 2 tractors registered as a 1959.1 a 1960, This year is not legal with usap ,but I have seen them pull. 1 moline,1 massey . Those of you who know John Lampkin well,bring this to his attention because these 2 tractors do pull some usap pulls ,the 1959 is against the rules, one need to obey all rules or none

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Jim

03-15-2004 12:50:32

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Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BILL, 03-15-2004 12:34:13

3000 plus RPMS out of a 600 CASE is not a lot of RPMS? When everyone understands he has a 855 Cummins on gas in a 600 CASE chassis, he won't be pulling anywhere. I was told he won that class just like an 88 Oliver won the 5000 open (track was very wet/slick early on), EXCEPT the 88 Oliver actually has a Waukesha and not a 855 Cummins! USAP won't let him pull either!

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Jack

03-15-2004 14:40:02

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Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jim, 03-15-2004 12:50:32

USAP won't let an Oliver 88 pull with a Waukesha engine?

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Dennis C.

03-15-2004 17:32:45

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Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jack, 03-15-2004 14:40:02

Yes the USAP will let you pull with a waukesha engine in an 88, they will NOT let you pull with a 855 Cummins truck motor converted to gas pull in a 600 Case chassis though! I stayed to see both the 5500 and 6500 lb. open classes run and I'd put them head and shoulders above anywhere else in the country in terms of competition. The 6500 was really entertaining as Begeman's G-6 and Bewley's 705 Minnie both made full pulls twice before they decided there wasn't enough sled there to stop them! One side note though: Begeman was running 2200 rpms (30%) and Bewley was running unlimited rpms(where the rules state 30%). I would recommend to the promoters of fruitland to maybe look into getting a tach for next years pull and a larger sled if they hope to stop such powerful machines.

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MR Puller

03-15-2004 15:09:08

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Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jack, 03-15-2004 14:40:02

If he was Bill Bear, he wouldn't have any problems!! If the NATPA had a speed limit, it wouldn't matter!! Ya'll can have that NATPA bull crap to yourselves!

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Jeff

03-15-2004 17:38:11

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to MR Puller, 03-15-2004 15:09:08

USAP pretty much lets you runs anything, as long as you go under the speed, and even they won't allow 855 cummins in a 600 CASE. What's next, rolls royce engines in my B JD? Every club has their problems; who wants Cummins/Detroits/Cats in antiques (hmmmmm , 3208 CAT in an 88??)

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Jeff Oliver

03-15-2004 19:30:06

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jeff, 03-15-2004 17:38:11

Heheh well ya know... you could get a 3208 CAt in and Oliver tractor... It is a LITTLE bit newer and bigger thanthe 88 but if the rules say the block can be from the same company as the tractor..... ..LOL!!!!!

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BigBuck

03-16-2004 08:47:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jeff Oliver, 03-15-2004 19:30:06

Yes the 3208 is newer but so is the 310-320.
So what is the real difference.

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Jeff

03-16-2004 10:28:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to BigBuck, 03-16-2004 08:47:57

hehe heck there is no difference to me I was just being a smart aleck:)

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OH CHADS!!

03-15-2004 17:43:58

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Jeff, 03-15-2004 17:38:11

This 3208 Catoliver sounds like your next project! Whatcha think?!

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ChadS

03-16-2004 20:33:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to OH CHADS!!, 03-15-2004 17:43:58

LOL!! I have my hands full right now!! Might have to use a supersize shoehorn. Anything is possible!! I would think big Perkins in an Oliver would be fun. Chad

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BigBuck

03-16-2004 20:24:52

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to OH CHADS!!, 03-15-2004 17:43:58

If there was a class that worked.

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Cody

03-15-2004 21:43:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to OH CHADS!!, 03-15-2004 17:43:58

I'm glad to see tha the Case/Cummins repower did get done. I knew that it was being put together for a while and obviously he done a great job with it. He sure has everyone whinning. That 855 sure beats the heck out of that over priced, underpowered, water dripping case engine that he had. I wonder who built that? If anyone talks to dennis in the next few days, congradulate him on a job well done!! Maybe everyone will use their heads and put a little bit of thought into their tractors instead of letting their emotions outweight the butt-whipping they recieve. Just my .02

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mike's600

03-17-2004 17:06:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Cody, 03-15-2004 21:43:57

That underpowered water leaking Case engine, doesn't leak anymore! Funny thing ,didn't notice any power problems.

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Hey Mike

03-18-2004 05:50:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to mike's600 , 03-17-2004 17:06:04

Glad to see she works good for you! The guy that owned it before you was the problem!

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whatever

03-18-2004 15:13:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Hey Mike, 03-18-2004 05:50:18

You know talks cheap

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mechanic

03-16-2004 04:56:07

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Cody, 03-15-2004 21:43:57

Chads, you are right, I thought that the water drain cock was standard equipment on the case motor. The 855 cummins repower will run forever, without a drain in the pan.

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Code Red

03-16-2004 06:06:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to mechanic, 03-16-2004 04:56:07

Mechanic, if you are talking to Chads, he hasn't even commented! (duh!) Cody don't know nothing! The motor came from out east coast, a Wenztler (?) who had it built out there before he built an rpms turner! Glad they can sit on their 600 all summer in the shed and think of the one time the blind squirrel found the acorn, cause it'll be tough to find even a brush pull that'll let them run this cobbled up thing. If you had 100 horsepower and 2 inch lug height, you could have easily won the 5500 open yourself! The funniest thing was the Cummins Case couldn't even start the sled due to its clutch being so cobbled. Then when he backed up and tried again, it would slip just enough to hold his tires down the track. It was the strangest thing, which fits in with that setup. I heard that there's a VAC with an M11 Cummins now going together (same principle boys!). 66 Olivers with Detroits will rock, too!

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Melvin

03-16-2004 06:31:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland Pull in reply to Code Red, 03-16-2004 06:06:38

Yes ,It did appear the clutch was slipping or some mechanical problem. But it was the best operating tractor in the whole class, right down the track, no jerking or bucking, cant say much thou for the idot on the massey, looked like a 3rd grade driving school would be helpful to him

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Code Red

03-16-2004 07:47:58

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitland in reply to Melvin, 03-16-2004 06:31:16

I can't wait to watch YOU put on a driving class if it looks so easy! The amount of weight they had to stack on the pan and the track appears to have made a weird situation. Racker's 88 could have easily won that 5500 also if he hadn't let throttle kick back. He was carrying enough weight in the right spots and gears slower to get the tires to hook. When people were DROPPING 2 gears just to try to get tires/tractor to go straight, that tells you what was happening.

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IF,IF,IF

03-17-2004 06:09:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fruitl in reply to Code Red, 03-16-2004 07:47:58

IF the track wasn't crappy,If the clutch hadn't slipped,IF I had a 2in. lug. The piont is, He beat everything else in the class, and everyone else had to go home without the trophy that was in Dennis' truck. Maybe if you had a cummins in your tractor(Code Red) you could have won a class too! BOO HOO, the river is running!

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Code Red

03-17-2004 06:18:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fr in reply to IF,IF,IF, 03-17-2004 06:09:14

Next time I'll put my M Farmall in the class with that joke of a Cummins, and show him what red power will do!! Otherwise I might just hook them drawbar to drawbar and drag him around the pull arena and drop him off at the sheep barn!! Baaaaa aaaddddd Booooo oooooyyyy!! Then it'll be IF,IF,IF, OUCH,OUCH,OUCH, YIKES!!!!! !!!!!

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Maybe someday?

03-17-2004 08:29:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Code Red, 03-17-2004 06:18:50

Maybe he will bring the case to IL and you will get your chance. You won't have too far to crawl home crying!

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Code Red

03-17-2004 11:09:40

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Maybe someday?, 03-17-2004 08:29:18

GOOD! We'll just have to find a place that'll let that conglomeration pull! Worse "case" scenario, we'll drawbar to drawbar and drop him off at the sheep barn!!!!

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Code Red

03-17-2004 11:19:03

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Code Red, 03-17-2004 11:09:40

I know, maybe we can go down to Tennessee and pull with you! You can have the Kleenex ready to wipe your eyes and his when you get stomped!! Then you can make up your own excuses!! (kleenex's will only be for wiping your eyes; sorry if you had other ideas!!)

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BOO HOO

03-17-2004 14:15:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Code Red, 03-17-2004 11:19:03

If you guys are so eager to put your 2 cents worth in bad mouthing the case why don't you write your real name on your comments. SCARED????

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Chris

03-17-2004 14:27:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to BOO HOO, 03-17-2004 14:15:04

I thought that the Case had a good pull. It seems to me that he did a good job since he atleast went down the track straight. Could the other pullers been able to handle the power since they could not get the rides that they had to go down the track straight? Just a thought.....

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Come on Down!!!

03-17-2004 12:58:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Code Red, 03-17-2004 11:19:03

I'm open to all forms of competition, but there won't be any of that sissy drawbar to drawbar crap. You might won't to bring one of those sheep to ride home on, the ole M might give out!! You might just git you a CASE, of the looser's blues!!! Ain't that right Head Joe!!

Case/Cummins is awsome!!!!

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Jon

03-17-2004 17:00:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Come on Down!!!, 03-17-2004 12:58:56

I dont understand why it is ok to put a RD 501 into a 460,560,w-40 farmall and its not ok for the cummins in the case? both are truck engines, both were never used in a tractor.so what is the difference.or is it just a farmall sport!!

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redtractor

03-17-2004 18:38:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jon, 03-17-2004 17:00:14

I know where a IH V 800 (truck OR tractor) motor is. Can I put that in a 460? It is a IH motor. Or can I put the motor that is in the new 8010 combines in a 460?

What is next jet engines!!!!

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red jet

03-17-2004 19:05:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to redtractor, 03-17-2004 18:38:19

I got plans for the new jet tractor!

One jet engine.
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4 lawn mower tires.
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One saddle
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One big stick of supper glue.
= Jet tractor

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