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What should compression be on new motor?

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Allispuller

04-04-2004 04:19:02




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We just rebuilt my dads WC Allis and I am wondering how much compression is good for pulling. We bored it to 4 1/8 and stroked to 4 1/2. It has 90 psi. Is this okay? Should we get a longer rod or something to increase compression? Is purple gas going to help any on this kind of compression? We hooked it to a 8000 lb JD yesterday and it drug it around real good with the breaks pushed in so I am not sure if we need to do anything else or not. The first pull is this month and I want to make sure we are ready to roll.

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KBMO

04-05-2004 10:10:19




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 Re: What should compression be on new motor? in reply to Allispuller, 04-04-2004 04:19:02  
90 PSI is a little low. You say you bored it to 4 1/8 and stroked to 4.5... Does this mean you used a standard 4 1/8 overhaul kit and a WD45 crank, or did you do something different ? Either way the compression should be higher than 90 psi.



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wldman

04-04-2004 16:25:09




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 Re: What should compression be on new motor? in reply to Allispuller, 04-04-2004 04:19:02  
i have a friend that has 310 cui and his tractor has 275lbs per cylinder.



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ChadS

04-04-2004 09:31:59




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 Re: What should compression be on new motor? in reply to Allispuller, 04-04-2004 04:19:02  
A bit low, recheck your valve lash, make sure the valves are not being held open. I had that problem with a WC last week. had 110psi before, 150 after the proper lash adjustment. One thing to know about very low compression engines, they will lug. set the carb up to run under a heavy load and you should be fine. Just my opinion, chad



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Allispuller

04-04-2004 15:50:38




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 Re: Re: What should compression be on new motor? in reply to ChadS, 04-04-2004 09:31:59  
We are planning on running in the 3.5 MPH class. Does this affect how I should set up the valves?



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chadS

04-05-2004 08:04:40




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 Re: Re: Re: What should compression be on new moto in reply to Allispuller, 04-04-2004 15:50:38  
Since this is a new engine, you need to break it in, seat the rings, and the valves. the valves may be too tight, and holding them open. Set them while the engine is hot (warmed up) The compression will build higher when the rings seat in the cyl. the big bore actually took compression away, since the stroke was not enough to compliment it. Also, when you stroked it the Allis engine is like a wedge engine, no chamber in the head, you should have found a piston, that would be a bit taller in the bore than the original, stock piston. (Compression height) A freind found out when he built his WC the first time, he installed a 3/4 stroker crank, with stock 4 in pistons, and was over 300psi, it had no room for a chamber to fire. he broke all 4 pistons at the ring lands of the pistons!! detonation, so, he brought it to me, and I went with 4 in ford 351 pistons. it had 230 psi, and was 70Hp. they are about 1/2 in below the deck at TDC. worked very well. Your will be a good puller, don't get me wrong here, it will lug very well! Just break in the engine, and maybe tune it on the dyno to set the timing, and the carb, then go from there. Chad

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