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James

12-05-2001 07:39:18




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Our club purchased a sled for a very reasonable amount this past year. Problem: the individuals we bought it from said a small tractor would have no problem pulling it. Tractors from 4500 lb. and up are able to move it and make good pulls. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas so this sled can be used to accomodate the smaller tractors. The weight has been removed for the transfer box and some of the smallest tractors still cannot budge it. (example: JD unstyled B, Oliver 66, Farmall A, C, etc.) Does pan alteration need to be made?

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Dale13

12-06-2001 13:24:23




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  
You have to have the axel far enough forward to take the weight off the pan when box is all the way back.Local club built one last year and 2500# tractors have no problem starting it.They also have a 8 foot by 8 foot pan,extra lenght seems to not make as many waves in the track,also gives a lot of friction area so when the box comes over it it gets real hard to move.They have it so no antique got a full pull last year and they never added weight during any pull!! Saves a lot of time. They had a benefit pull for a kid with a huge turnout 200+ tractors,even had some NTPA muti engines rigs,no full pulls. BUT THERE WERE NO 820 DEERE's OR I'M SURE THEY WOULD STILL BE GOING WITH IT.Cause everyone knows they can't be beat even by a CAT challenger,right?

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missery

12-05-2001 16:20:51




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  
the weight on the rearis a good thing,if you could move the axle foward somethat would help.what is your chain like ,does it hitch low,is it short ?the tire on the front will be your easiest way out. hey,did you read that comment that 820 guy wrote you? you can tell he's going places....



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820puller

12-05-2001 18:17:14




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to missery, 12-05-2001 16:20:51  

300 foot baby. you garden tractor guys be lucky to see 300 ft marker in a lifetime, might see 200 ft. if your lucky have a good day



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Shutt 30

12-05-2001 18:36:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller , 12-05-2001 18:17:14  
Well my dads 20 Cockshutt pulls 3rd gear in 2700lbs. thru 3500lbs.(thats 5.7 mph) His last pull thru was in 3600lbs. spanking a 8N ford with a automotive flathead six convertion kit. Not too shabby for a garden tractor eh smokebelcher?



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820puller

12-05-2001 19:05:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to Shutt 30, 12-05-2001 18:36:20  

smokebelcher. i like that. smokebelcher@webtv.net. kind of special isn't it. maybe someday your cockshutt will grow up an be able to pull 10000 lb in second gear. have a good day



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Shutt 30

12-05-2001 20:13:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller, 12-05-2001 19:05:46  
I know a canadian with a 50 Cockshutt that does. That poor tractor has weights coming out of everywhere. Theirs a couple of "Big G's" on alchol that just hate it when he pulls into the scale area.
P.S. I though you'd get a kick out of that smokebelcher thing. Keep that Johnny popper thumpin down the track. ( and out the end!)



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guy

12-06-2001 04:22:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to Shutt 30 , 12-05-2001 20:13:33  
Just to note, 2nd gear on a 50 Cockshutt is only about as fast as 1st is on that 820. 2nd on the 820 is definitely a whole lot faster than 2nd on the shutt...



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Shutt 30

12-06-2001 08:05:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to guy, 12-06-2001 04:22:38  
He just said he would like to see one pull in second gear in 10,000lbs. He didn't say how fast. Besides 10,000lbs. for a Cockshutt 50 and placing well isn't too shabby.



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820puller

12-05-2001 15:23:33




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  

SIR;you should have bought a garden tractor sled. real tractors weigh 5000 an above. real tractors go to pulls on triaxle trailers NOT on skimpy car trailers, real tractors make noise.HAVE A GOOD DAY HEAVYWEIGHTS RULE 820PULLER



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oliver puller

12-11-2001 20:12:21




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller, 12-05-2001 15:23:33  
I have a 1900 oliver with only a 4 cylinder, I would love to pull against your 820. From 8500 to 18500 would be fine. This is a 1960 model so it is legal in farm stock.



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Oldman in Okie

12-05-2001 22:59:47




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller, 12-05-2001 15:23:33  
820Puller, Why would anyone need a triaxle trailer to haul a small tractor like a 820? Here in the real world we only use a triaxle to haul something decent size like a IHC TD20 or Cat D7 or larger. Even hauling a small IHC like a WD9 we only use a tandum axle.



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AC B PULLER

12-05-2001 16:55:35




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller, 12-05-2001 15:23:33  
I pull the small tractors and i do not have to have 100 plus grand in a truck to get to the pulls and have just as much fun...



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joecool

12-05-2001 16:41:20




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to 820puller, 12-05-2001 15:23:33  
R U on drugs? I am all for all tractors pulling but that sounds like pure prejudice of anything but a 820. Oh yeah, rules what? A school yard with nothing but other 820's?



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richard

12-07-2001 18:41:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to joecool, 12-05-2001 16:41:20  

this has nothing to do with a color war. this is about tractors an garden tractors. what don't you understand. later richard



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Troy

12-05-2001 13:14:28




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  
Some sleds in my area are using a set of wheels which are adjustable to hold up on the front pan to keep the bars from under the pan from digging in.



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TP from Central PA

12-05-2001 15:11:05




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to Troy , 12-05-2001 13:14:28  
We have the wheels on our pan(which is as wide as an Farmall A) on our large sled, it works very good! It lets the little guys get most of the way down the track before they spin out, they really seem to like that!! Then we put our big pan on in the 5000 pound class.

You might try the wheels on your current pan, if it doesn't work you might consider having a smaller pan with wheels for the smaller tractors, and then removing the little pan and swaping it for the big one in the 4500 pound class.

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Gary

12-05-2001 12:52:35




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  
Sounds like you needed someone with a little tractor pull experence to look at the sled,if you couldn't tell a sled that a 2000 lb tractor could
pull from one it takes a 4500lb tractor to move,of
course I could be wrong.



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burns

12-05-2001 11:03:24




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 Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to James, 12-05-2001 07:39:18  
I have seen a couple sleds mounted with weight brackets positioned far behind the rear wheels of the sled. The added suit case weights on the brackets allow the rear wheels to be used as a pivot point lessing the down weight on the pan.



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J. Banet

12-05-2001 22:06:12




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 Re: Re: Ideas on pulling sled in reply to burns, 12-05-2001 11:03:24  
There are several sleds in Ind. that use wheels on the pan to hold it up in the light classes. Some run with low air pressure so that the weight moving up the rails does it's job. There's no reason this couldn't be used in your case. I would make them adjustable so you can change the setting acording to track conditions. There should be no need to change pans with this kind of setup.



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