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which locktite is best?

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Andy

07-18-2004 22:35:54

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I want to locktite the flywheel bolts on a MM. I know red is supposed to be the strongest but how does it compare to locktite bearing and stud lock? I realy want these bolts to stay tight. Thanks, Andy

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07-20-2004 05:32:12

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Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-18-2004 22:35:54

Andy you have to use the MM bolts they have a special shoulder disregard these other posts they are trying to help but apparently don't know what these bolts look like.

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Redman

07-19-2004 21:04:28

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Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-18-2004 22:35:54

i hate to be different,well no i don't but that is another story.
i had a problem with mine wanting to come loose with red loc-tite,i now use green sleeve retainer.
that will hold them,even sucks to get them loose when you want but they don't come loose anymore.
also go to a bolt store and get machine screws,they normally carry a grade of between 12-14.

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BUD BARENIE

07-22-2004 02:50:59

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Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Redman, 07-19-2004 21:04:28

GRADE 12-14 WHAT IS THAT !!!
I SELLCAPSCREWS FOR A LIVING
THEIR'S ONLY 4 GRADES OUT THERE !
GRADE- 2, GRADE-5, GRADE-8 AND GRADE-9
GRADE-2 NO MARKES ON THE HEAD
GRADE-5 THREE RADIAL LINES
GRADE-8 SIX RADIAL LINES
GRADE-9 12 RADIAL LINES OR DOTS

BEWARE OF THE IMPORT STUFF, IT STILL EXISTS IN THIS COUNTRY !!!

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BUD BARENIE

07-19-2004 20:15:23

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Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-18-2004 22:35:54

THROW THE OLD BOLTS AWAY !!!
ONCE A CAPSCREW HAS BEEN TORQUED, IT HAS BEEN STRETCHED ! PEPLACE WITH A GRADE-8 BOLT.
PLAIN FINISH, THEN USE RED LOCTITE !!!

LIKE GASKETS, IN A HIGH TORGUE OR CRITICAL APPLICATION, NEW CAPSCREWS SHOULD BE USED !

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07-20-2004 05:29:25

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Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to BUD BARENIE, 07-19-2004 20:15:23

Well he will have to back to agco and buy them they have a special shoulder on them that lines up crank and flywheel, So he better get his pocket book ready!

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Andy

07-20-2004 21:45:08

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Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-20-2004 05:29:25

I would like to replace the nut and locking retainer that holds the clutch on the input shaft,(a prevous owner used a chisel instead of a 2" socket to take it of). AGCO no longer stocks them. Any ideas on where to look for new one?

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BUD BARENIE

07-20-2004 06:16:03

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Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-20-2004 05:29:25

JUST FINISHED ASSEMBLY OF A FARMALL SHORT BLOCK.
CONNECTING ROD BOLTS, RETAINERS AND FLATWASHERS WERE 176.00 AT THE IH STORE
(OUCH)

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Flogger

07-20-2004 06:42:12

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Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to BUD BARENIE, 07-20-2004 06:16:03

Speaking of fastners, the last farmall motor I did, I called ARP about head studs and nuts. They actually had the size and lengths I needed in stock and while not cheap they were comparable to to Case/IH. The quality is also about 100% better too. No regrets so far.

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BUD BARENEI

07-21-2004 06:02:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Flogger, 07-20-2004 06:42:12

DO THEY HAVE AN INTERNET WEB SIGHT!
MIGHT BE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN IH

THANKS FOR THE INFO

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Flogger

07-21-2004 12:59:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to BUD BARENEI, 07-21-2004 06:02:29

They sure do BUD. www.arpbolts.com.

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BUD BARENIE

07-22-2004 02:53:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best in reply to Flogger, 07-21-2004 12:59:39

THANKS FLOGGER

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07-19-2004 15:54:52

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Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-18-2004 22:35:54

242 is the blue medium for 1/4 to 3/4 fasteners, 271 is the red high strength up to 1" fasteners, I think the blue is ample don't over torque those flywheel bolts or they will stretch.LW

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07-19-2004 04:10:46

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Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-18-2004 22:35:54

The red high strength is what they call permanent, there is one that is high strength for bolts over a 1/2 thats what I like, Its not a permanent.

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BUD BARENIE

07-22-2004 02:42:45

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Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-19-2004 04:10:46

LOCTITE 272
HI TEMP/HI STRENGTH THREAD LOCKER
PREVENTS BOLTS AND PRESS FITS 3/8"-1" DIA (METRIC
10MM-25MM) FROM LOOSENING DUE TO SHOCK AND SEVERE VIBRATION AND HEAT STRESS
SUITED FOR TEMP UPTO 450 DEGREES
REMOVE WITH HEAT AND HAND TOOLS
APPLICATION GOOD FOR CAMSHAFT SPROCKET BOLTS, CRANKSHAFT BOLTS IDLER BEARINGS, PRESS FIT FILLER TUBES, TRANSMISSION INPUT AND OUTPUT SHAFTS, RING GEAR OR SHOCK BOLTS !
LOCTITE WORLDTECH (272)
(290-GREEN) THREAD LOCKER FOR MID STRENGTH APPLICATION
(640 SLEEVE RETAINER) GREEN FOR PRESS FITS
SLEEVES VALVE GUIDES BEARINGS AND BUSHINGS !!

INFO DIRECTLY OUT OF LOCTITE CORPORATION CATALOG !

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Andy

07-19-2004 09:43:39

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Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-19-2004 04:10:46

Thanks, have you had a chance to pull your GB that was pictured hear a while back? Nice looking tractor.

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07-19-2004 12:42:35

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Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Andy, 07-19-2004 09:43:39

That loctite is blue I'll get you the #, Yes pulled it this weekend did rather well considering there wasn't enough weight on the front 1st hook, mag pick-up took a crap on the 2nd hook but it did fine for the first time out.

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Flogger

07-19-2004 13:13:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-19-2004 12:42:35

Glad to hear you finally got to shake down that new MM LW. Did yall get wet sat evening? It rained out the Tough Enough pull after about 21 classes. It was a long slow ride home in the pouring rain.

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07-19-2004 15:57:24

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to Flogger, 07-19-2004 13:13:57

Yeah got a little shower then that old super hooking track just got better, It started raining again about 1/2 hr after they finished I know I drove home in it too, you planning on coming to Pittsboro Sat.?

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CASEPOWER

07-19-2004 19:08:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which locktite is best? in reply to LW, 07-19-2004 15:57:24

Hey Flogger, You know what's worse then driving in it?? Yea, you guessed it! Riding with LW when he is driving in it!! HeeHee

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