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rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560

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Big Jake

02-22-2005 15:01:55




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I was wondering if it possible to put the 501 ci international truck motor in a 560? What would you have to make it fit and does it look stock? I have a 1958 international 560 and I am tryin to keep it looking stock but I want to get some power out of it.




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Big Jake

02-24-2005 10:48:34




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Big Jake , 02-22-2005 15:01:55  
There is really no rules in the club that I pull in as long as the motor appears to be stock, by having stock intake and carb, nobody really bothers you. For instance there is a guy that has an Oliver 88 that I know the motor is not stock but no one bothers him and plus i need more power to beat him. However if you have a small block Chevy in your tractor they are obviously going to ask some questions. It is alot cheaper to put a bigger motor in than it is to bore and stroke my motor. And you can get a lot more power by boring and stroking the rd 501.

I was going to put just a 301 ci motor in out of a 806 or something but when I heard of the idea of bolting up a rd 501 ih truck motor my ideas change. So i was just curious to see if anyone had done that sort of motor swap befrore and if ther is any tips that i should no before undertaking the task.

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ChadS

02-24-2005 13:22:34




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Big Jake, 02-24-2005 10:48:34  
Jake, its a job, but a very rewarding job after its done. The RD is longer than the C263 in your 560 so yes, custom made front engine mounts are required, as far as the bellhousing, make an adapter plate by using the old 560 plate, and make the bolt pattern from the RD. Make sure to measure the distance from the engine plate to back of the starter ring from the 560, for when you have the block in the tractor and measuring for the flywheel and still be able to use a stock style starter. Me personally, it would be easier to bolt in a 361-407 or a 436-466 IH in the 560, lots more factory parts will interchange for the flywheel and clutch, along with factory bell housing adpaters that will help make the job a bit easier, IH made 3 bellhousing sizes that were used in most of their line up,, the H-460 are the same bellhousing patterns, the M-1456 are the same, then you get into the Hydro series, which combined the big 436, or 466 in the same bellhousing as the M-1456, with the right parts from certain models, it is pretty simple to make them BOLT in to your 560. There was some posts a while back that talked about what bell housing adapter to use to put the 400 series in the older bellhousings. Hope this helps a bit,,, ChadS

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jthhhhhh

02-23-2005 18:40:20




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Big Jake , 02-22-2005 15:01:55  
why do people cry every time someone asks about putting a different motor in their tractor maybe they pull where i do you can run any motor made or used by the band tractor your using as long as it has an updraft carb. my 560 has a dt 466 converted to gas n/a and is 500hp.. the 501 will fit you need to drill you backing plate to bolt to the 501, have a flywheel made, and front motor mounts. im sure their is a lot of other small stuff but that will get the motor in the tractor

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AC

02-24-2005 07:30:15




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to jthhhhhh, 02-23-2005 18:40:20  
I would like to talk to you sometime about that 466...andrewcurry21@msn.com..thanks



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A.P.

02-23-2005 09:33:16




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Big Jake , 02-22-2005 15:01:55  
There is a 560 in the photo ads with what I believe is a bored and stroked RD501. Whay not give the gentleman a call and see if he can give you a few tips. The worst that could happen is he says no.



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rules

02-22-2005 18:45:56




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Big Jake , 02-22-2005 15:01:55  
So, is what you are saying...

Screw any rules, what can I get away with? And will I get caught...



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Agco Avenger

02-23-2005 04:04:31




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to rules, 02-22-2005 18:45:56  
I personally like creative type tractors. There should be a class for "creative" or "outlaw" tractors. MM's with 800 engines, 501's in IH's, big continentals or chryslers in MH or big Budas in CO-OP's or AC's. All are good and fun to play with..... .and cheaper than most big strokers.
Avenger



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Redman

02-22-2005 19:58:49




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to rules, 02-22-2005 18:45:56  
i sure can't see where he said that,but then alot of you guys like to start stuff for no reason.
i have no idea on a 501 truck engine or i would post it.



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rules

02-23-2005 18:52:40




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to Redman, 02-22-2005 19:58:49  
Redman - Relax, I think it was the part where he says "What would you have to make it fit and does it LOOK STOCK? I have a 1958 international 560 and I am tryin to keep it LOOKING STOCK but I want to GET SOME POWER out of it." in the TRACTOR PULLING FORUM.

Silly me, I saw a post in the tractor pulling section where someone wants to know if he can swap a different engine into his tractor and hide it. I guess in some ways that isn't a lot different than boring and stroking.

I also agree with the other guy, kinda neat to see what people can do with enough determination and creativity. I've seen guys put small block Chevys in JD A's but you wouldn't think of calling it stock and pulling it as an antique tractor.

BigJake - seems like it would make more sense to work on the motor you have in your tractor than put a different engine in your 560, unless you are just doing it for fun. There's more than enough RED knowledge out here to pick up some cheap HP if you ask the right questions.

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M. Bray

02-24-2005 10:18:29




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 Re: rd 501 ih truck motor in a 560 in reply to rules, 02-23-2005 18:52:40  
Lots of the time it is easier and cheaper to put in another engine. But do agree on pulling it in the stock or mod. classes but at the pull I put on the open classes rules read that you can run another engine as long as it"s by the same manufacter and bolts to the trans. in a stock appering manner. like 88 in a 77.



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