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Max bore of a straight H block

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AC

02-28-2005 04:41:53




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Anyone ever go 3.766 or 3.796 in a regular H block with out hitting water? Don't want to risk 3 13/16 with out a 300 block. Already saw one go to 3 13/16 and go through....




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ChadS

02-28-2005 06:42:00




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to AC, 02-28-2005 04:41:53  
AC, Like I said, it takes a really good H block to go out to 3-13/16, Ive had them checked for thickness and cracks before I have them bored. H blocks can handle 3-3/4 (3.750) you will have a small flange lip left over, but not much to worry about. First time I had an H block bored to 3-13/16, I bored 2 blocks and went through, the 3rd block took it. The first 2 blocks was a 1945, and the other was a 1941 year model block. The last block was from a 1950 H. If you remember my small cube H not Wilder, it is running 3-13/16, on the block, and not hard blocked, been together for quite a while, 8-10 seasons,,, How much stroke do you have in your H? ChadS

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AC

02-28-2005 08:58:17




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to ChadS, 02-28-2005 06:42:00  
Well, the block in the garage is a '51. I may not push it all the way to 3.8125, but may stay around 3.763 or 3.793, just to be on the safe side. I'll be swinging that 6" crank, because it's there, and I may as well use it. I got the old motor torn down (3.75 X 5.125) and the threads where the head studs go in are pretty bad. Plus, the piston dome does not fit in the LP combustion chamber. I can't get it to turn over by hand, I can feel it hit. I'd rather just build a new short block than take the old pistons out...
I've already got the crank, block, pistons at my fingertips, bearings, and head. So, it pretty much just needs to be put together. What is new on your end? When does the season start..I'm starting to get anxious....AC

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clarence barenie

03-01-2005 04:41:17




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to AC, 02-28-2005 08:58:17  
what do you want for the old block, with stuck pistons ? complete short block !



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CLARENCE BARENIE

03-01-2005 14:55:32




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to clarence barenie, 03-01-2005 04:41:17  
THE 3.75 X 5.125 ASSEMBLY !
WOULD THATY BE FOR SALE



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AC

03-01-2005 16:29:19




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to CLARENCE BARENIE, 03-01-2005 14:55:32  
Oh, you threw me off when you said "stuck". They aren't stuck..it's the little stroker engine I ran last year in that single front wheel H. I reckon it would be for sale. It's a good little motor, but it needs 2 helicoils put in, in my opinion. It's probably fine, but I am a perfectionist. When it was new, it was right at 75HP. It has 190 psi or so for compression. Let me think about it....Andrew

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AC

03-01-2005 07:47:48




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to clarence barenie, 03-01-2005 04:41:17  
Hi Bud!
Which old block are you refering to? I just sold my 400 motor, but it turned over....
You need H stuff?...

Got the tractor together and ready to go for this year?...later, Andrew



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ChadS

02-28-2005 16:17:35




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 Re: Max bore of a straight H block in reply to AC, 02-28-2005 08:58:17  
Season starts either the last week of May, or the first weekend in June. Getting ready to build a 450 4-1/8 X 5-3/4. Tearing it down in the morning! The 460 is back in the main shop, the head is done, and Im ready to rebuild the ol 263. Im leaving it at 263 cubes,, I just finished up a IH 706 this week, gave it an inframe overhaul, and have had it on the dyno this week breaking it in. It also has a C-263 gas, new pistons, sleeves, head redone, tune up, carb rebuilt, etc etc. all I can say, is that the pto is slipping at 90 hp at little over 540. Its bone stock, and its good homework for when I build my 263 for the 460. I goofed up when I dynoed the 460, With the 6 cyl in the H rear end, at 540, the engine is only at 1800 rpm! on the 706, its like 2560 rpm at 540. when I seen the HP in the 706, I went back and figured the difference in the pto gearing ratios, and engine rpm speed. If I was to dyno the 460, using the H pto, and try to run the 2500 rpm, The pto would be over 800 rpm,, kinda fast to be spinning that pto, but how else can I dyno it? so, looking at rebuilding the drive shaft coupler, I rebuilt the transmission when I installed the limited slip differential. Bearings are new. Im thinking it will be around 105-110hp at 2500 rpm, which would be round 79 hp at 1815. Good lugging engine at 6,8 mph classes. Thats bout it here. Better get some good saftey glasses when grinding out that block! Cast iron slivers in the eyes, hurt like @$#!&*#%!!!!! Be good! ChadS

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