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I need more power from my 706

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706 puller

09-18-2005 09:35:41




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I have a stock 706 gas 263ci. It makes 70hp. What can I do to make more power, and how can I get more RPMs. Is there anything I could change with the carb, head, cam or valves. I pull in a 9500lb farm stock class against tractors that are not stock, so I need to find an edge.




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ChadS

09-20-2005 10:46:31




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 09:35:41  
How many hours are on your engine? If its alot, freshen it up, rebuild it. 70hp isnt bad for a stock 263,,, Cyl head work is critical, port and polish the head and manifold, that will help it breathe alot better. The heads are very restricted on the exhaust ports. Carb work, usually just use the bigget venturi that was used in the IH 6 cyl, which would be a #35, used in the 301, easiest found inthe later IH 715 combines, and rejet the carb to feed it fuel from there. Find a governor off of a Ingersol-Rand Air compressor, that uses the IH C-200 gas 4 cyl engine. They are the lightest weighted governors available for the IH 6's you want rpms, use one of those setups. Those were rated at 3000rpm to start with. They are a single lever governor, in where your 706 will have 2 linkages including the governor spring. You could replace the linkage from the steering column, with a piece of rod, with a heavy spring that attaches directly to the governor arm, that will give you rpm, add a turn buckle to that to make it adjustable, and you can tune your rpms to the range you want. I recently rebuilt my 263 in my 460H,,, the engine was in good shape, being from a combine, so I honed the cyls, rerung it, and new rod bearings, basicly a inframe overhaul,,, I reworked the cyl head, ported, polished the exhaust ports only, the manifold was also matched up to the port work, the Intake ports were left alone, felt they were large enough to feed it, The head was milled .040 to make it true, and to make a little compression increase. Valves were redone as well. I had dynoed this engine before, and after I rebuilt it, and after the head work. Before, it was 70hp,, had 150 psi of compression, on 93 octane pump fuel. After, the engine is 90hp,at 2600 engine rpm and the compression pressure is around 185psi. Still on the same 93 octane fuel. My 263 revs up to about 3500rpm, has room for more, but, its enough. Havent had a chance to run it on the track just yet,, been too busy with other things, but its running good. I also belive that straight pipe exhaust on these engines are a NO NO,,,, they need a little back pressure out the exhaust,,, At least on the gassers,,, JMHO, seems to run alot better with a muffler than a 2-1/2 straight pipe at 36 inches long. Hope this helps,, Chad

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706puller

09-20-2005 17:41:56




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to ChadS, 09-20-2005 10:46:31  
currently I am using 87 octane fuel, how much difference would it make to run 93. also, where can I find larger jets for my carb.



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ChadS

09-21-2005 11:11:00




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706puller, 09-20-2005 17:41:56  
Ih 6"s dont like 87 much. Really, its not enough to run it properly. These engines create alot of heat in the cyl head, a little more octane will help keep it cooler, wont be so subjected to burn valves, rings, and pop head gaskets. They detonate and preignite and they can self destruct in a hurry. You can rejet the carb yourself, using a set of Numbered drill bits from the hardware store, find the drill bit that matches your current main jet size, and buy the drill bit that is about 5-9 sizes larger than the stock one. A good way to tell if it is starving for fuel, one is to look at the spark plugs after a hard lug on the engine, if they are white, or a very lite brown, its a bit lean and can use more fuel, another is to change the cut off switch on the carb bowl with one that is adjustable, like the M"s and H"s used, if you can open up the throttle all the way up, and back the adjustment all the way out, and not make it smoke, or run rich, its no where near close to getting enough fuel under a hard lug on the engine,,, thats what creates the heat problems and you burn things up in these engines. it would make a good difference if you work the engine hard under a pull, using 93,,, from where you lose power from heat, you will gain it back a little if you get it tuned in. Chad

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Sheepdog

09-20-2005 08:32:06




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 09:35:41  
Very seldom can you farm with the one you pull.Depends on the area tho.



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meanallis

09-19-2005 13:13:12




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 09:35:41  
The later 706 diesels came with a German built 310 cid engine. European IH tractors using the same block had 358 and 407 cubic inches. Find a
good Case/IH parts man and he can find the crank, pistons, and sleeves you need to make a 407 out of a 310. Probably won't be cheap, but it would pass tech inspection. Prably 130-140 horse max without a turbo.



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grandad

09-18-2005 16:31:11




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 09:35:41  
go and buy a 400 seris IH diesel and put that in then you won't be getting beat anymore. Run like a 466 no turbo. What are the rules and how much do they follow them?? Buying a 400 seris is probably cheaper than messing around with different valves, cam, bore job, pistons, crank, machine work, etc.



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706 puller

09-18-2005 17:59:24




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to grandad, 09-18-2005 16:31:11  
TRACTORS MUST USE BLOCKS INSTALLED BY THE FACTORY – NO EXCEPTIONS.
ALL TRACTORS TO RUN FACTORY RPMs. NO EXCEPTIONS
ALL TRACTORS MUST BE FACTORY CUBIC INCH. NO EXCEPTIONS. they are very strick about the factory block rule, but they give a little bit about RPMs, and I have never heard of anybody contest cubic inch.



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Redman

09-19-2005 20:00:14




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 17:59:24  
put a add in the paper for a 1066 salvage unit,depending on your area you can find them for $2000 or there abouts,maybe cheaper if the person has not talked to anyone or they talked to the wrong person.
make about 275hp real easy right there.



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grandad

09-19-2005 17:41:30




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 17:59:24  
well then I don't know what to tell ya other than doing like sheep dog says and get different cam, carb, valves, etc. Where I run alot of people are running 706s,806s,856s,etc with 466s in them and they really run out well. But since there is more than one pulling putting 20ft on the next guy they don't say much. The next guy catches on and starts spending money, and doing the same.



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Hurst

09-18-2005 19:34:30




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 17:59:24  
I don't see how they could tell cubic inches unless they wanted to tear apart your engine??? Anyway to put a blower on it and have a pressurized carb? Is that allowed in the rules (I would doubt it, but may be a loop hole??). What about higher compression? Not messing with the stroke or bore. Just some ideas I thought of.

Hurst



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Sheepdog

09-18-2005 11:54:22




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 Re: I need more power from my 706 in reply to 706 puller, 09-18-2005 09:35:41  
Depends on the rules. Different carb won't help till you get more cubes. Storking will help that. Cam will help with more RPM's. More RPM is gotten by a heaver spring or grinding iron off of the weights in the govenor. Bigger valves and flowing the head after you get more cubes and RPM's. We have a 560 gas poked to 420 CI, 3,400 RPM, 225 HP. That motor is not the ideal one to work on for that heavy a class. Diesel would be better or go to a 966.

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