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Bencie

02-02-2006 20:12:14




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Iv'e noticed lately that there has been a lot of talk about cut and uncut tires. I think in the SPORT of tractor pulling the first thing to accomplish is traction. If that is denied to tractors then maybe drag racers should'nt use slicks? Maybe baseball players should'nt wear spikes? Maybe scuba divers should'nt wear flippers? Maybe sand buggies should'nt use paddle tires? Maybe sky divers should'nt use parachutes! well maybe we'll omit that one. But you get the picture. We're not going to tractor shows, we're going to tractor pulls. I just don't understand. P.S. I don't own a pair of cut tires.

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Super Lurker

02-03-2006 05:54:18




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
Not all drag race classes allow slicks. Some stock classes must run DOT approved tires. Slicks are an unfair advantage as are cut tires in stock classes.



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mta puller

02-03-2006 05:38:14




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
cut tires would be a major advntage in the stock classes, even though most would stall out with them , but with more power, they are a winner.



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Augie

02-02-2006 21:12:42




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
Don't forget that a lot of folks get started pulling with a bone-stock tractor. The first thing to accomplish is enough grunt to keep whatever tires are on your tractor turning until you spin out. It takes more grunt to turn sharp tires, and it takes more $$$ to make more grunt.

Keeping sharpened tires out of DivII/Farm Stock type classes gives the folks who are just starting and/or don't want to spend their kids' college fund on the tractor a place to pull, be competitive, and most importantly - have fun.

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REDJD

02-02-2006 21:03:26




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
But if the farmer could have put a crop in faster or made a bigger profit, the tractors would have went to the field with cut tires.



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Lamont

02-03-2006 17:06:51




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to REDJD, 02-02-2006 21:03:26  
If the farmer would have used the cut tires there wouldn't be any controversy over cut tires. IF is such a big word sometimes. There's probably no controversy at the pulls that have divisions for cuts and non-cuts. Although, whatever class your in, the winner always cheats according to some people.



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MJF

02-02-2006 20:59:33




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
Thats not always the case. We farm with our tractor and still drag them to the pulls and are competitive with them. We have a 300 with a H motor in it and my M. We double tree pulled the first night(like pulling a sled with a team of horses but tractors)The 300 had sat with a broken gear for about a year and the oil rings stuck, so it smoked like a diesel.(we fixed the gear) Well we sat waiting to pull and it fouled a plug, neverther the less everone got a kick out of it. We found an old plug in the tool box cleaned it with a pocket knife shoved it in and we got a ribbon with them, now thats real tractor pulling.
I'm 18 and my M don't even have matching tires let alone cut tires and I got a ribbon every time I took it pulling.

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Ken Crisman

02-02-2006 20:36:28




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Bencie, 02-02-2006 20:12:14  
It's not the sport it used to be where you took your tractor out of the fields for a day & had fun pulling for fun . It's now about big money , competition , & being noticed for having the wildest looking funny machine that's supposed to be a tractor because it has ag tires on the back . Ken



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Greg H. WV

02-03-2006 07:24:02




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Ken Crisman, 02-02-2006 20:36:28  
Aint that the truth. As a matter of fact the club in my area has done what appears to be everything they can do to keep the farm tractors out, by passing increased safty rules to the point that a farmer will not modify his tractor with kill switches, and dead man throtttles, so he can go spend 75 t0 100 dollars an evening, just to get their back sides spanked by machines that are nothing like the tractors they were in their former lifetime. Mind you I have no problem with people who modify their machines to win. I just get agrevated when they make the rules to where a retorer, or farmer who want's to pull for fun can't. When sled operators complain because the stock tractor pullers take too long to pull, especially the putters and all they want to do is get the pull over as quickly as possible and get paid. Pulling doesn't seem fun anymore, or a good social event, and to me that is just sad.

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Brutus

02-03-2006 09:16:47




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Greg H. WV, 02-03-2006 07:24:02  
I agree pulling isn't as fun as it used to be but what hobby is cheap? I have seen pulls put in classes so someone can bring their hay raking tractor in and they don't show up anyway, and if they do and get beat by another bone stock tractor the other guy just naturally cheated some how. Pull in the class your tractor fits. If you are in div. 3 or above safety equipment should not be an option, if you want to pull your farm tractor then encourage your local club to put in classes for them, if they see the numbers they probably will. Or do like I did 20 years ago, start pulling 25 feet short of the winners and figure how to run with them.

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Greg H. WV

02-06-2006 10:11:12




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 Re: Just dont understand in reply to Brutus, 02-03-2006 09:16:47  
Brutus,
I know what you are saying, and I have won a few times before, and I've lost allot of times, but what is disheartening is setting in the stands with 10-12 men who used to pull the heavy classes as farmers, just to watch the 4-6 pullers, currently in those classes, who now have all the mods, knowing you own a bone stock tractor,that you farm, and are not legal to get on the track. I know this is a local club problem, but you hate to see folks take a good thing, and run it in the ground, just so the fairground lawyers will be happy, and they can go faster with all the safety equipment.

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