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Which mag would work best?

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1942 A

02-15-2008 09:50:47




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I have 42 A, that has bored and stroked. I'm tring to find out which Magneto would work best. I know I need a hot one. Looked at the one on magneeders.com. Just wondering what people are doing.
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roy's...

02-18-2008 12:41:18




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to 1942 A, 02-15-2008 09:50:47  
call roy's magnito. (989)773-9341, Has lots of mags, and can build you one. his pullin mag is about 50$ cheaper then magneeders...



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jd b puller

02-17-2008 19:22:55




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to Andrew Z, 02-15-2008 09:50:47  
Did you tweak it with each? Carb, timing, etc? Or just unbolted the mag and put the dist on it? Was that HP measured at the same RPM's?



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John T

02-16-2008 12:18:28




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to 1942 A, 02-15-2008 09:50:47  
A disadvantage of a mag (unless its a special unit with a variable RPM based advance) is theres but one fixed advance timing setting like say 20 or 25 or 30 or 35 etc BTDC depending on its drive cup and final adjustment BUTTTTT TT if you use a distributior it has a variable RPM dependant advance timing curve so its more in time versus the actual running RPM. When she at faster RPM the timing is more advanced but as she lugs slower in RPM the timing advance drops off accordingly using a distributor ..... .

If you run a mag and are at high compression they make the high performance pulling mags which have a higher strength magnetic rotor and can develop more spark gap energy plus higher voltage to arc jump the plug gap at the higher compressions.

Of course if shes a non electric tractor then you go the mag route unless you wanna stick on a battery n then can run a battery powered coil ignition and a distributor.....

If I was at high compression Id use a distributor (to get the variable RPM based advance) with an elec ignition switch,,,,, , a high energy high voltage coil,,,,, run a wider plug gap for a wide hot spark wooooo oo hooooo

John T Retired electrical engineer

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1942 A

02-16-2008 12:31:19




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to John T, 02-16-2008 12:18:28  
Thanks for the continued feedback. I'm just weight the best way to go. I will have a battery and electic start.



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John T

02-16-2008 20:54:21




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to 1942 A, 02-16-2008 12:31:19  
That settles it in my opinion. If you have a battery equipped tractord Id definitely use a distributor (to get the variable PRM based spark advance curve and the availabilithy of an elec ignition) with an elec switch and a high energy high voltage coil wooooo hooooo oo. Id also run oversize wire like 10 or 12 gauge to the elec unit n coil n use good quality plug wires n a good cap cuz you will be at higher voltages with a wider plug gap and a HV coil. To save horsepower robbers Id also have the fan balanced n the blades flattened (less HP draw) n NOT be using the genny during the pull, eliminating HP robbers (fans, gennys, hydraulics, air restrictors, any other friction you can reduce) can gain you a few HP

John T

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TWL

02-15-2008 13:42:26




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to 1942 A, 02-15-2008 09:50:47  
I have a friend that pulls an A and dynoed the mag then a distributor.The distributor made 8 more hp.



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jdjack

02-16-2008 11:52:56




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to TWL, 02-15-2008 13:42:26  
IT seems hard to beleive 8 more hp. Maybe timing ways off. But 8 is alot just for spark.



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TWL

02-16-2008 14:50:50




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to jdjack, 02-16-2008 11:52:56  
I didn't get to see the tractor on the dyno,but he has always been honest with me.He said it was due to the impulse not being consistant.



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1942 A

02-16-2008 07:30:37




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to TWL, 02-15-2008 13:42:26  
what distributor is he using? If people are using mags what mag. long or short lug?
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TWL

02-16-2008 10:05:37




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 Re: Which mag would work best? in reply to 1942 A, 02-16-2008 07:30:37  
I'm sorry,I don't know what distributor he is using.



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