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Canadian puller

02-29-2008 13:18:34




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Looking to take stock JD A or AC D-17 and work on. Not sure which would be the most economical and deliver the most HP`s. My competition is IH H,M`s.




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MLPANKEY

03-01-2008 15:38:14




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to 4010, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  

alliswd45 said: (quoted from post at 15:18:15 03/01/08) A D-17 is the way to go, its got more power than a JD A and the D-17 has the power director
i saw a coranet built wd 45 stomp a g with 125 horses in the ground at indian ridge afew years back in the 6000 lbs class

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alliswd45

03-01-2008 14:18:15




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
A D-17 is the way to go, its got more power than a JD A and the D-17 has the power director



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Andy Motteberg

02-29-2008 20:56:06




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
Use a John Deere A.



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mpuller

02-29-2008 20:08:40




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
Canadian puller, AC's are hard to beat in lighter classes 4000-5000. 6000 & up the molines offer the most performance for the money, either stock or modified. D-17's may be too new, but the D-17 engine in a WD45 is allowed in most organizations. JD A's offer the least amount of performance for the money, but they do make a lot of noise.



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2 cents

02-29-2008 18:57:02




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
I'm so tired of these AC fans. They never even made one that could compete at over, say 6000 lbs. Go ahead put down the 2 cylinders, but run those wd's, stock, in the field or on the track against a 2 banger of equal hp, and be dissapointed! Too much weight and torque!



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AO

03-02-2008 09:12:04




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to 2 cents, 02-29-2008 18:57:02  
Even JD figured out that two wouldn't get it anymore. Who cares about over 6000 anyway?



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alliswd45

03-01-2008 14:14:06




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to 2 cents, 02-29-2008 18:57:02  
You tell me what 2 cylinder John Deere is going to beat a D-21,190xt or a 7000, heck, D-19 would even kill a 2 cylinder JD, last time I checked you can way more power out of a 4 banger that a little 2 cylinder.



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UNSTYLED PULLER

02-29-2008 14:30:44




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
WHERE I PULL THE RULE STATES 1959 AND OLDER,,



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The Dukester

02-29-2008 13:39:06




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to Canadian puller, 02-29-2008 13:18:34  
Well, the D-17 stock is more than a match for any John Deere A or Farmall H or M....it was much more powerful and is of a later era....the last A's, M's and H's were built before the first D-17's. It will take a lot of effort and money to make these older tractors competitive with a even mildly modified D-17.



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Hot Rod A

03-02-2008 13:29:33




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 Re: JD or AC in reply to The Dukester, 02-29-2008 13:39:06  
Well, I'm not trying to start the whole brand vs. brand pi$$ing match, but without too much work and $$$ you can make a nice puller out of an A that should walk on the d-17s. I had a stock crank A (not a creeper gear "A" either) that had a little under 70hp and walked all over every d-17 I've ever pulled against, from 5000-7500 and it didn't matter if they used the TA either.
Deere made quite a few As, so coming across one isn't too big of a challenge, and with a little know-how as to where to spend your money, and what parts to look for, you can put together a nice running/pulling stock crank tractor on a reasonable budget, and do so with only bolt ons, no grinding/cutting/clearancing.

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