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Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066

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curious

06-20-2002 17:11:01




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Can a4020 run with the big red ones? Or would I be wasting my time and money?




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David Ransom

06-21-2002 12:09:46




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 Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to curious, 06-20-2002 17:11:01  
It looks to me like the colour war is over for now. I don't see much activity on the Tractor Bashing Board.



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Puller504

06-20-2002 18:49:00




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 Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to curious, 06-20-2002 17:11:01  
Here in northern Ohio the JD4020's are usually lightened up for the 9000#, 90hp. classes. A 1066 IH Being rated at 125hp. or more, usually run in the 12000#, 120hp classes. No color war here either, as we pull IH, JD, 3 different model Olivers and my AC WD. all are fun and competitive I was raised on Farmalls but I'd rather pull my Oliver. If your 4020 is turbo'd your 404T might be ok in the 12000# class. (In my opinion).

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Farmallhunter

06-20-2002 18:42:43




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 Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to curious, 06-20-2002 17:11:01  
A 4020 is about the size of a IH 856 they compete together all the time where I am from. You never Know which will win. I would say that a 4430 is more in the Lines to compete with a 1066. Just my 2 cents worth. Have a good day!! Farmallhunter



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Jon D

06-20-2002 18:37:09




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 Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to curious, 06-20-2002 17:11:01  
You know a 1066 is a lot bigger than a 4020. No color war here.



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G Taylor ...why answer

06-20-2002 17:39:54




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 Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to curious, 06-20-2002 17:11:01  
Until you can post your name & e-mail address with such a leading question that temps a colour war, don't expect any polite answers.



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Herm

06-21-2002 09:18:21




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 Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor ...why answer, 06-20-2002 17:39:54  
Let me guess. G.Tayor pulls a G John Deere.



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 09:38:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Herm, 06-21-2002 09:18:21  
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Besides, at least G. Taylor has the guts to put his email address behind his opinions, unlike everybody else that replied to his posts. And he is right, there have been many of these types of posts - including several posted by "curious", be it the same person or someone else, that were clearly aimed at stirring the pot. If "curious" is serious about making his 4020 competitive, he would post his email address to make it easier for knowledgeable individuals to contact him on a personal basis. Until he does that, I regard his posts as color-war instigators, also. Besides, anyone that knows even the basics of tractor pulling, knows that it's going to take a pretty stout 4020 (read: expensive) to pull with a 1066, especially if the Binder is tweaked at all. The 4020 is a good, solid tractor when properly built and tuned, but the Binders are running S.O.B.s in their own right. I would think that a 766 or 966 would be more of a match for a turboed 4020, as we have a non-turboed 766 at the farm that makes around 120 hp, and had at one time a 966 that would pull with a 1086 all day long. My two cents.
My two cents.

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Herm

06-21-2002 09:59:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 09:38:05  
All that from another G John Deere Puller.



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 11:19:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Herm, 06-21-2002 09:59:19  
And another comment from the little guy that doesn't have the testicular fortitude to post an email address, thus rendering his opinion worthless to those that do. And you really can't call me a G JD puller yet, because mine isn't together yet, and all I've pulled are Farmalls.
But I can assure you I will be very proud to pull my tractor(s), regardless of your opinion. You know what they say about assuming, Herm old buddy. By the way, several manufacturers built model "G" tractors, including Allis-Chalmers and Minneapolis-Moline, so you don't want to draw conclusions from a simple name. By the way, what kind of tractor do you pretend to pull in the sandbox? Try to come up with some better insults, Herm. You're not even that much fun to argue with - don't get in a battle of wits unarmed. Have a great day!

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HERM

06-21-2002 11:22:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 11:19:53  
More from a G John Deere Puller.



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 13:02:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to HERM, 06-21-2002 11:22:33  
Absolutely, Herm! Ever hear the one about wrestling with a pig? Keep it up, I'm starting to enjoy this, sandbox puller. By the way, what are your feelings on the 4020/1066 matchup? Do you know anything about the tractors? Do you know anything at all? Please post back right away.



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Helm

06-21-2002 13:11:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 13:02:28  
....and more from a John Deere G puller.



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 13:29:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Helm, 06-21-2002 13:11:09  
So now your name is helm? What's up with that? I had just finally figured out that herm was probably short for hermaphrodite, and now you go and change your name? You're killing me here, helm. Can't we just be friends? I promise I won't hurt your sandbox..... ..



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Halm

06-21-2002 13:32:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 13:29:20  
Aren't John Deere G pullers the nicest people?



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 13:39:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Halm, 06-21-2002 13:32:53  
You betcha Halm, just about as nice as the guys that have to put in a smart-a$$ post when someone posts with their honest opinion and doesn't slam anybody doing it, and puts their email address on it to boot. Who do you think looks like the bigger idiot here? Just remember, you started it.



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Holm

06-21-2002 13:48:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 13:39:14  
...and even more from a G John Deere Puller. Thanks.



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G-MAN

06-21-2002 13:58:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Holm, 06-21-2002 13:48:45  
I wish I could say that it has been a pleasure talking to you, but since you seem completely unable to carry on a conversation, I can't say that. FYI - most pullers are decent people, and I think I'm a pretty decent guy, too. However, as you've probably figured out by now, I will not bow down to your smart-a$$ comments, so this little exchange can go on forever as far as I'm concerned. However, it is doing nothing more than wasting valuable space on what is usually a valuable resource (until people like you decide to post comments that have no basis or value, and then don't even bother to back them up), so I will not reply further to your comments about G John Deere pullers. I can only guess that you're either jealous or highly resentful of people that own or pull these tractors - probably as a result of being thoroughly trounced by one or more on the track, providing that you have actually pulled a tractor at some point (which I find highly unlikely). So, if you feel like making any further comments about "G"s, "G" pullers, or even me, feel free to email them to me - although I know you don't have the courage to do so, still I had to make the offer. Also, please reply to this post, as it will make you look even worse, trying to get in the last word after I called a truce. So, unless you decide to email me, it's been nice talking to you (lol), and I wish you well in your life. Your's Truly - G-MAN.

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Hilm

06-21-2002 14:04:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-21-2002 13:58:37  
Thanks once more. That was a nice conversation with another G Jonh Deere puller.



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G Taylor

06-24-2002 16:17:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Hilm, 06-21-2002 14:04:35  
G-Man, we can't expect too much of a conversation. Like any pig "he likes to wrestle and you both get dirty", but it also takes him a long time to trace the keys & copy out same typed message. Got to give him credit however, mightly rare to find a hog that can type. Odd how the whole string of replys has many names but only a few authors. I'll run another trace sometime but it will likely come back to the same two or three 14 year olds.

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G-MAN

06-24-2002 17:16:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-24-2002 16:17:21  
I hear ya G. It is interesting how some of these idiots clam up completely when more than one person challenges their opinion. I guess not everyone can have the guts to stand behind their statements. But then again, you know how we JD G pullers are - you just can't tell us nothing. I would actually be very surprised if Herm actually knew what a G looked like. Oh well, I guess the kids gotta play sometime - maybe it will keep them off drugs or something. I did hear from the original poster by email, and he apparently does have a 4020 that he pulls. But like I told him, beating those 1066s is going to be a tall order. Gotta give him credit for trying, though.

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Selm

06-25-2002 05:04:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G-MAN, 06-24-2002 17:16:49  
Two John Deere G pullers. What nice friendly people they are.



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G Taylor

06-25-2002 07:10:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Selm, 06-25-2002 05:04:49  
Actually don't have any lettered tractors. Just a 40, two 50's,a 60 rowcrop & working on a 60 low seat, a 70 gas rowcrop, 70 diesel standard,80, 720 diesel standard,435 & a 840. Can't expect much of these kids, parents were too busy to teach them & they hav'nt lived long enough to learn the rules.



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Slim

06-25-2002 07:15:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-25-2002 07:10:14  
OOPS. It is one nice John Deere puller and one nice soon-to-be G John Deere puller. Some of the nicest pullere here.



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Andrew Gubbels

07-16-2002 19:04:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Slim, 06-25-2002 07:15:01  
Hello Boys. I know you guys like them ol johne deere G's but in my country them 2 popers are on the end of the line for power. The Allis Chalmers tractors are like crushing everyone. In all weight classes. The D21 in the big classes, 190xt in the middle weight and D17 and Wc in the light wieght. The INternationals are right in there also. Every once in awhile a John Deere will pop through there on an easier pulling track. A 4020 doesnt have the motor a 1066 does to begin with. You would have to do a heck of alot more work on a 4020 to make it compete with a 1066 and be consistant. Those red ones can really run. I have pulled just about everything so I am not negative about any brand. I do prefer more then 2 cylinders I must say. Have fun pulling boys.

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Brad

06-21-2002 08:02:43




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 Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor ...why answer, 06-20-2002 17:39:54  
All these old tractors regardless of color has proven themselves over the years. I thought the pulls were for fun, not to get angry about. So why don't you guys or gals just enjoy your hobby.
I like all the old tractors myself.



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06-20-2002 19:54:01




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 Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor ...why answer, 06-20-2002 17:39:54  
Let it go taylor. You're the one keeps bringing up the color war.



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curious

06-20-2002 18:46:59




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 Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor ...why answer, 06-20-2002 17:39:54  
No color war. I want to pull, and this is what i have aJD4020 with mw turbo.



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Walt

06-20-2002 18:07:48




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 Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor ...why answer, 06-20-2002 17:39:54  
G, I don't think that question is trying to start a color war, he just asked a simple question about two different tractors and you have to just his A$$. Why don't you take up GOLF and maybe it won't be so Threatening to your BRAND, I think you need to get a LIFE and not be so quick to FLAME other people.



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G Taylor

06-20-2002 19:47:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Walt, 06-20-2002 18:07:48  
Pull and own what ever turms your crank. I've been beaten by tractors other than JD more often than I've won. Comparing a 1066 & 4020 without mentioning a turbo & speculating on wasting money on a JD is a classic "dig" to start a colour war.It's been done dozens of times before. He didn't leave an address which is another tell tale sign of trying to stir things up. Likely this was a colour war that fizzled and was re-directed thanks to the way it was handled. By the way if this is real, what division and class?

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Slo

06-25-2002 09:10:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-20-2002 19:47:17  
So now that you know it was an honest question, where's your apology and appropriate helpful response?

Since it fizzled and was redirected from an honest question, thanks to the way it was handled?



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G Taylor

06-25-2002 15:36:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to Slo, 06-25-2002 09:10:08  
The question was answered. The 1066 was a larger tractor from the factory that competes in a couple of weight classes higher than a 4020. Likely the 4620 of that era would be closer match. By the way, where is your e-mail address if you can be critical?



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Slo

06-25-2002 16:33:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-25-2002 15:36:44  
Why, my email is right over in tractor town, on this site. Did you really plan to converse privately on the issue?

You're right, the 4020 needs help to compete with 1066s. In fact, that appeared to be the focal point of the original question.



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bob

06-21-2002 07:32:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-20-2002 19:47:17  
cool it this is why other board was shut down. I just popped in and feel for the good guys



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Disturbed 1066

06-21-2002 05:49:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can a JD 4020compete with a 1066 in reply to G Taylor , 06-20-2002 19:47:17  
You guy's all need to grow up. I've pulled just about anything with wheels on it, but I absolutely hate JD tractors, nothing against there owners, they like them. Apples to apples it takes alot of work to make a 4020 beat a 1066, no question about it. Just go to your pulls and have fun, thats what we do



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