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ChadS

03-26-2008 05:19:55




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Will never get back to "normal" As long as outsiders keep coming in and playing court jesters and hassling others for no reason. One fella in particular, has 2 IP addresses,,, from indy and at or around atlanta IN. I dont start many topic threads much anymore,,, just for that reason, used to have one or two a week, good discussions on the how to's but that fella keeps comming back like a bad penny,,,,, he likes me,,,,, if not why the obsession???

So I respond to the guys who ask the questions, instead of posting topics, it seems to work out best that way,,,

I know of a method of pulling that will separate the stocks from the mods,,,,, and in a hurry too!
DEADWEIGHT!!! Or tug pulls, or jerk pulls, many names and known bout anywhere pulling has been going on for over 50 years!!! Deadweight pulling, can be a dangerous sport if one goes into blind. Safety is a must and wheelie bars are manditory,, cause the front end comes up a little higher than normal like transfer sleds,,, its a method of pulling that the stockers dominate!!!!!

The sled is not on wheels, you get no running start. Just a large ski type bobsled, with huge concrete blocks stacked on it, one round at a time.
3 tractors in a round,,, 3 full pulls,,, they add weight and they go again,,, if one cant pull, another tractor enters the round,,, and so on and so on.
Its not a big power display,,,,, in fact, the big power doesnt get ya very far!! They spin out everytime,, the stockers,, hook up and walk it out to the full pull line. Its not a fast paced, or speed pull,,, with the proper weight, the right application of torque, that ol sled will pop right loose and its poetry in motion. If you ever want to learn how to pull,, and how to move the immovable object,, then give dead weight pulling a try. I belive the basics, and balance will become clear as a bell and they get to see how the act of pulling actually works in a chassis. It tells ya real quick that power is needed, but too much and your done so driver skill, weight placement can help learn for sure. A true farm tractor can be a winner everytime if the right application of strength is applied,, and the everyday tractor, has plenty when dialed into its weight class. classes can range from 3 classes,,,

Light, medium, heavy! Simple! 0-5000# 5001-7500, 7500-infinity and beyond,,,,, percentage based scoring, so if you do well, the higher the percentage,,, the more weight you pull the higher the percentage. highest percentage wins. Ever see a Stock WD45 move 37,000lbs of deadweight???? I have,, its awesome! dont ever forget the tractor in pulling,,, cant pull with just a motor,, so it takes the argument out,, tires, well they are on backwards if ya pull on asphalt or concrete,, so cut tires dont do worth a darn,,,, See where Im going with this??? there is nothing to argue about,,,, only fun fun fun. think about it!!! Go see one soon! Get HOOKED! A bone stock JD A, can beat a turbo charged 190 XT AC with nitrous, does this sound like a way to play "payback"??? This is the original form of tractor pulling. try it, youll like it and its not hard to get clubs started,, sled matirals are cheap, and can be done on a small pad,,, no track graders,,, only a broom, so it can go pretty quickly! So many show up,,, it takes 2 days if 50 tractors show up. ChadS

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ChadS

03-31-2008 06:55:44




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Well sure!! Lots of em like it! Its like taking a dodge colt,,, and racing a challenger with a 426 hemi and the dodge colt beats it. It spearates the pullers from the wanna be's and the wanna be's can pay attention and learn from em. Its pulling in its simplest form, and anybody who wants to learn,, well its puling in slow motion and you can see alot and learn alot watching. Even if they run 50 mph, its still the same principal,,, the hitch needs to lift the load, weight placement increases the tires ablity to grip the surface and not spin out,,, and move the sled. balance,, most important,, if you dont have it,, well,, lots of money spent wont get you in the winners circle,, its what you do with it, and try harder next time. Basics first, and then the pullers take it from there. Chad

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RETIRED SMOKER

03-30-2008 21:13:47




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
OMYGAWD!!! You mean a pull that is old and slow??? Geesh the guys around here only want smoke and goldplated crap.. The antiquers don't stand a chance with all that old/slow stuff.. Theye'd rather have the smoke flinging, multi million doller stuff than the stuff you can do yourself. Can anybody say COMMON SENSE??



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ChadS

03-28-2008 08:21:46




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Shaggy, if you do,,,, put on duals, and bring weights. Enough to go to 3750. for the B. Chad



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ShaggyM

03-29-2008 08:31:32




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-28-2008 08:21:46  
Putting on duals might be a little interesting. But I have extra centers and wheels!
Shaggy



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ChadS

03-28-2008 08:20:16




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Come see me, Ill help ya out. our deadweight is 0-5000#,, and if you go a few rounds early and done before the heavier ones start,, the percentage can be pretty good and be in the money!! But, ya gots to pull the load!! we see 230's do well. one day a lawn mower,, a little massey furgasen,,,, at 2400# won and he was the first to pull, and won out of a class of 25 tractors. Caught everybody off guard. ChadS

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ShaggyM

03-27-2008 22:13:53




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
I would LOVE to try my Little B in a dead weight pull!! It might happen this summer!
Shaggy



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comfortking

03-27-2008 15:38:19




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Chad have you ever seen a Case-o-matic tractor pull in a dead weight pull? If you have do you think the torque converter is an advantage? Thanks



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ChadS

03-27-2008 18:00:54




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to comfortking, 03-27-2008 15:38:19  
No sir, I have not seen one try yet. I have seen V8 with automatic trasnmissions, with a stall converter in this sport. Seemed to work out!



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bobidan23

03-26-2008 18:02:08




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
i read a lot of these posts on stock pulling not being stock and brands getting different rules to help their chances and "quit whining if u want to win spend the money" kind of crap i dont know about the rest of you but i make $12 an hour and me and my brother pull a "stock" m farmall(that means i unhook the bushhog or disc grab a couple sets of wheel weights load it on the trailer and go to a pull) i would love 2 win every pull but i dont matter of fact the only trophy i ever got i beat my brother on the same tractor and we were the only 2 in the class.We do it for the fun of it i enjoy hauling it to the pull, talking to all of my buddies, and losing power @ about 250' in 6500 farmstock.If everybody got back to the original reason most people started pulling for fun and commradery their would be a lot less B.S. he cheated blah! blah! blah!

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WHAT

03-26-2008 17:21:27




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
chad your so full of crap its so funny. New tires work good if the first few times but after that u mightas well take em off. in are club we dont even let roadworn tires in just to stop the headache. I dont care what anybody says cut tires can MOSTIMES help you. if they didn't why do people cut them. I mean theyve ben pulling for 20 years



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Jason In IL

03-27-2008 10:23:14




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to WHAT, 03-26-2008 17:21:27  
So, what you are saying is; any ave Joe with his old tractor that he/she uses on the farm for various items such as mowing, raking hay et., is not allowed to pull with the tires they have on their tractors because they are "ROAD WORN". What the hell, are we supposed to all go buy new tires just for this!!! You are as dumb as you sound!!! Time for alot of you IDIOTS to get your head out from you know where!!!

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ChadS

03-27-2008 10:29:47




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to Jason In IL, 03-27-2008 10:23:14  
Jason, pullin on the street, concrete, what have ya,, dont matter what tire,, they gonna be alot sharper by the time is over with,, just by them spinning on the asphalt,,, so in other words,, all the tires in a deadweight are shaved,,, even if a grinder never touched em,,, so, not much of an arguement on cuts or not cut. Sure! They are road worn!!!! LOL! Right? ChadS



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ChadS

03-26-2008 18:45:02




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to WHAT, 03-26-2008 17:21:27  
Then dont you pay no attention to this then. Would not wanna help. Somebody tell me why radial tires are now allowed? Or why ya dont want to pull against a radial tire,,,,, You ever see a new tire on ashphalt? say like a firestone ATFR 18.4X34?? Better yet,, dualed up,,,, yeah its allowed down here,,,,, in deadweight pulling.



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HossinMe

03-26-2008 16:32:13




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Hey Chads,Youre right about the stone boat,we pullem alla time.My 47 JD-A does real good in this class,ive even outdone 880 oliver dsls. really makes em mad when 38 hp whoops em! Later Hoss



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Go Away

03-26-2008 12:47:05




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Chads is a dreamer. In his mind he can whip any stroker with his so called stocker. Just need that special spring and watch out. NOT! Go away and quit plugging up this forum with you crap.



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ChadS

03-26-2008 13:21:03




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to Go Away, 03-26-2008 12:47:05  
Why dont you take the leap of faith,,, ride that pedal tractor out in the street will ya?? Thanks,, Chad



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And Then

03-26-2008 09:24:14




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Yeah- I see your point but the big boys in my area would not go to one- they want transfer sleds where they can show off their div.3 tractors that they retired to stockers! I know its a pain watching a so called stock G go out the gate when a true stock one does not make half track. Stay on here Chad - like to read your posts!----Thanks



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ChadS

03-26-2008 13:26:17




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to And Then, 03-26-2008 09:24:14  
If ya build the sled,,, they will come!!! A closer look at tractors,,, I mean what you have to deal with with what you have in front of ya,,, certainly there are adjustments that can be made to help,,, any tractor!! Knowing where to start is most important,,, first, knowing the tractors bare weight, with a driver,,, next, how much power the engine does make, then, figuring out what weight the HP can comfortably pull and not be overkill for the weight and power. I havent found a tractor that is too low on power that anybody could not make it go further than what it does now.

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What

03-26-2008 07:36:38




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to ChadS, 03-26-2008 05:19:55  
Ok i agree that it does seperate them, A little but if there is no advantedge to cut tires why do they do it for dead wieght. some times it hurts them but alot of time it works good.



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dead weight hero

03-27-2008 07:03:32




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 YOU know nothing about pulling in reply to What, 03-26-2008 07:36:38  
youre a damn jackass.... read what he's saying. he's talkin about pullin on cement . You obviously know nothing about it . But hell, if you want, go and cut youre tires. Chad knows alot about pullin.He's just tryin to help some pople out. then you jackasses who dont know anything, go and talk crap about him. just leave the guy alone.



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ChadS

03-26-2008 13:30:36




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 Re: OK, stockers only read this,,,, in reply to What, 03-26-2008 07:36:38  
New tires are the best on dead weight on the street or concrete. Older tires,, dont bite so well unless they are heavy,,,, the soft tire grips and bite,,, most cut the tops to get a solid foot print or a full bar surface on the pavement,,, But you run the tires on backwards on ashphalt pulling,,, not many I have seen, cut the tires,,,, just alot of new tires and lots of pressure testing at different weights. Makes a road worn set of tires pulling like this real quick,,,, aint cut,, but they are road worn,,,, HAHAHAHA!!! Think about it,,,, chadS

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