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'Reversing' a tractor

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Dan-IA

04-06-2006 21:45:12




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I recently discovered "reversed" tractors (tractors with the seat, pedals, and steering wheel turned around, and the transmission adjusted so it runs 3-5 gears in reverse and one gear forward.) Such tractors were often equipped with a loader. Some of you might recognize the name "Honey Bee" as it applies to a Farmall B or 140.

Since the nearest "reversed" tractors that I could buy are in pretty bad shape and the owners want a premium for them, I'm thinking about reversing a Cockshutt 30 that I just acquired. I have another 30 for parts as needed. It looks to me like an interesting project.

I realize this is a major undertaking. But I'm looking for pointers. I know that a Farmall or IH tractor can have the differential 'reversed' by some sort of adjustment (I live with a former IH mechanic). But the biggest unknown I have in this project is whether a Cockshutt can be similarly changed for 4 gears in reverse and one forward. Is this possible?

Thanks!

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Kansas Cockshutt

04-09-2006 04:32:17




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 Re: 'Reversing' a tractor in reply to Dan-IA, 04-06-2006 21:45:12  
It is YOUR tractor to do with as you please- but it is a shame to do that to a Cockshutt when there are so many other tractors that were made in much larger quantities (read: cheap to aquire) out there just getting cut up and shipped to China because of low demand for them. Where you live, closer to the border, Cockshutts are probably plentiful so you are saving them by reversing is justified. Just my OPINION and only an OPINION please take no offense.

Have often seen Combine conversions to loader/forklift style, not sure how big of a unit you want to end up with but those work slick.

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JMS/MN

04-07-2006 10:38:44




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 Re: 'Reversing' a tractor in reply to Dan-IA, 04-06-2006 21:45:12  
How the differential is made is key to reversing the tractor. Reversing controls is easy. I reversed my WD about 30 years ago. No change in parts to reverse the differential on a WD- need to pull out each axle enough to remove the diff carrier, turn it 180 degrees, and reinstall. Bolt pattern is symetrical. Puts the ring gear on the opposite side of the pinion. WC is simialr, but done from the front- also need to grind away some of the casting to get clearance. Farmal M and H are similar to reverse. Some older Fords as well. With your Cockshutt, unless someone can tell you ahead of time, the thing to do is get inside the differential and see if parts can be remounted with the ring gear on the opposite side of original.

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JMS/MN

04-07-2006 10:49:36




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 Re: 'Reversing' a tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 04-07-2006 10:38:44  
Regarding controls: With so many good parts available in salvage yards now, I would mount a hydraulic pump driven directly off the engine, get a (power) steering axle from a combine, along with the hydrostic steering unit from the cab- eliminates the Disney shafts and gears needed with a mechanical setup. On a WD, that would mean tossing the front casting and mounting the combine axle underneath the frame. That would leave the front frame area open for a front-mount hydraulic pump. Clutch and brake pedal linkages often involve one pipe inside another to get action to the correct side of the tractor.

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JMS/MN

04-07-2006 10:52:13




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 Re: 'Reversing' a tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 04-07-2006 10:49:36  
hydrostatic..... ..cheesh!



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04-07-2006 08:16:02




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 Re: 'Reversing' a tractor in reply to Dan-IA, 04-06-2006 21:45:12  
I don't know about that tractor but I do know they did that a lot with the Allis WDs



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