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Repairing the cylinder liners

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FMD

05-11-2006 06:52:35




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I had a problem with water leaking from the bottom cylinder liner seal on one cylinder. Now I have all of the sleeves out (they are the wet type) and I"m going to reuse them. However in all of the sleeves there is some pitting or even small grooves where the o-ring is supposed to contact the sleeve. I"m going to use some kind of silicone sealer with the o-rings.

My question is should I try to fill the pitted areas on the sleeves with some kind of chemical metal or epoxy? Or would this do more harm that good? And how would the silicone sealer work? Thanks in advance for your answers.

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FMD

05-12-2006 03:21:05




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 Re: Repairing the cylinder liners in reply to FMD, 05-11-2006 06:52:35  
Thanks for all the answers. The tractor is a 1955 New Fordson Major. I"ve heard several stories about using the silicone succesfully. Some people even recommend using it every time regardless if the sleeves are new or not. I"m fairly sure there are no pinholes but I"ll try to look more carefully. But the leak was definitely from between the block and liner. I know because I took the oil pan off and observed where the water came from.

The o-ring grooves in the bottom of the block look fairly OK to me so this won"t be a problem but actually I asked if I could repair some of the pitting in the sleeve itself with some kind of epoxy? Or will the silicone take care of that too?

I"m going to hone and reuse the old sleeves because they are in fairly good condition and so are the other parts or the engine. The engine starts well and the oil pressure is very good. I realize that I"ll have to do a complete overhaul to the engine in the future and this is just an attempt to postpone it a little further. I"m on a tight budget right now. The tractor won"t be used very much and it"ll last years before the need for the overhaul. Or at least I hope so.

Thanks again for the answers.

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msb

05-11-2006 20:36:48




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 Re: Repairing the cylinder liners in reply to FMD, 05-11-2006 06:52:35  
Some people say they use JB WEld to repair o-ring bores.I recently tried it on a 3020 .Hopefully I will never be able to tell you it failed.Just be sure to sand it back down to the originl diameter.I am not one to do repairs like this ,but there is not that much heat down there to concern me.Only time will tell. Guppy Goo---thats a good one.lol,bob



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Mike M

05-11-2006 19:06:06




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 Re: Repairing the cylinder liners in reply to FMD, 05-11-2006 06:52:35  
What engine are you working on ?

Those pits in the sleeves can be real tiny pin holes clear through them so you are best to replace them.



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the tractor vet

05-11-2006 09:42:06




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 Re: Repairing the cylinder liners in reply to FMD, 05-11-2006 06:52:35  
If ya want to fix it correctly then the block needs to go to a machine shop and have the lower counter bores repaired and guppy gooo will not slove your problem and you are waisting your time and money .



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RustyFarmall

05-11-2006 11:48:53




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 Re: Repairing the cylinder liners in reply to the tractor vet, 05-11-2006 09:42:06  
Tractor Vet, I like your choice of words, guppy goo, but you 100% correct, that stuff does not belong on the inside of any engine, it will soon fail, and the stuff that falls off will end up in the intake of the oil pump, and then the flow of oil will be reduced, and then you have a siezed engine. Now you are looking at some really big dollars, all because you tryed to skimp and used guppy goo.



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