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shawnspeed3

07-24-2006 09:12:42




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Any tips or advice welcome..Trying to dismount a 16.9x34 tire from rim to patch hole and am having a heck of a time getting the bead to brake down...did the slide hammer, and driving my AC B tractor onto the tire as it lay on the ground to break it , no luck....any tips???? Thanks Shawn




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jim hynden

07-29-2006 19:51:38




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
Food for thought - Gemplers procedure for changing a tire while still mounted to the tractor says to have the valve stem hole on the top when dismounting the tire and on the bottom when remounting the tire. If the tractor is blocked up and immobilized, how do they propose that you accomplish this stunt unless you completely unbolt the wheel?



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PaulW_NJ

07-25-2006 20:04:23




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
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Having a couple tractors with hydraulics can help alot . . .



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davpal

07-24-2006 22:08:35




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
I had to do one on my 9n this year and I layed it down on the ground and next to my big tractor (white 4-150) heavy..and used a ten ton bottle jack under the big tractor to push on the bead. It still didn't want to come off. Had to pursuade it with a big railroad bar and the jack together and it popped off. Just find the heaviest thing you can and put a bottle jack between the two and it will usually work. Kind of backyard technology here. Much better to have a pro do it that is used to the work. Good luck.

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massey 44

07-24-2006 16:47:04




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
Just changed tires on my MH 44! I also have a 450 IHC with 2pt that has down pressure that I have a rear blade on it. I placed the blade next to the bead and lowered it and behold it broke the beed loose very nicely without harming the tire. Course you have to remove the tire from the tractor and I realize not everyone has an IHC with fast hitch but worked for me.



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4010guy

07-24-2006 16:08:17




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
Hi Now i aint no expert but i have fixed a pile of em on the farm here and there never was an easy one but from what i see on the gempelers ad that craig in wy sent in look to be about right except all i ever had for a bead breaker was a homemade (big) slide hammer. I can tell you that if you can leave the tire on the tractor or combine that they are a LOT easyer to work on. Good luck and have fun---And be carefull.

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shawnspeed3

07-24-2006 11:02:09




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
Thanks guys, just got off the phone with the local farm tire repair place ...20 bucks to dismount ,25 to patch, 20 to remount....sounds like a deal...we will see , as I dont have the time to mess around, second cutting will be ready soon ...Shawn



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Andy in Il

07-28-2006 20:36:11




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3 , 07-24-2006 11:02:09  
Where is that shop located!!! Here in Salem IL they wanted 115 dollars to put a new tube in my 15.5-38 tire. 80 for labor and 35 for tube!



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old

07-24-2006 10:16:07




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
I always laugh when I here people say they drove a tractor on a tire or other such ways to pop a tire loose. Yes it can be done that way but only about 25% of the time does it work. You need a true tire hammer and strong arms to brake them down. I have been doing tires for some 30 plus years and a good tire hammer, some soap and water and strong arms is the only way to go other then takeing it to a tire shop.

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David Snipes

01-05-2007 11:37:56




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to old, 07-24-2006 10:16:07  
Yoy are right. A duck bill tire hammer is the best way to go.



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JAY IN KY

08-21-2006 11:46:06




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to old, 07-24-2006 10:16:07  
Old, you are right, that is the best way and the way tire repairmen do it, but I dont think most guys would be able to learn how to curl the hammer blow under the edge of the bead. I worked around tractor tire repair for 25 years and when a new guy would come in we would try to show him how to curl the hammer and a lot of guys just couldnt master it. I used to have fun walking over to them after they had been beating on the tire awhile and I knew it should be ready since they had lubed it good with penetrating oil. I would bet them I could break the bead with say six blows and of course they would laugh at me and say no d*m way, then I would place six good hard blows under the edge of the bead and the tire would fall loose and the look on those guys' faces was priceless.

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old

08-21-2006 12:35:15




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to JAY IN KY, 08-21-2006 11:46:06  
Yep but its also not all that hard to learn to do BTDT and I also did work at a few tire places over the years and now days I do my own tires other then on the car or truck. But I've also been doing it for 30 plus years. Shoot I worked at a gas station when I was 16 or so and that way decades ago

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Craig in MO

07-24-2006 09:36:56




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 Re: Dismounting tires in reply to shawnspeed3, 07-24-2006 09:12:42  
Just put a new tube in my AC WD rear tire this weekend (rim was VERY rusty inside)using the following Gemplers tire changing procedure. Only diffence was I used a farm jack to break the bead. Pushed the under the tractor and jacked against the bead and the tractor. Lots of work but I GOT-R-DONE

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