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1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swap

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Scott Yoder

08-10-2006 14:50:14




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My 44 allis C govorner gear broke, So I bought a gear and distributor off of an Allis B how do I go about setting up the timing, or will this set up not work on a C ?

Thanks for whatever info you can share..




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Scott Yoder

08-20-2006 09:30:33




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 14:50:14  
Thanks so much for all your info guys,
The old allis is up and running, I need to do some carb work, but as for the swap she's runnin fine !!!!

Thnaks again guys... Scott



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old

08-10-2006 17:11:54




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 14:50:14  
Theres a couple differant set up on the mag/distubutors but if you have all the parts it will fit. They use the same parts and you can use a distubutor from a C,B,WD,and WC all on it. But there are as I said a couple differant ones. One has a gear set up and the distubutor drops in and the other is a slot type mount which is real easy to put on because its either in right or 180 out which is also very easy to fix just by swapping wires 180.

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Scott Yoder

08-10-2006 18:14:57




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to old, 08-10-2006 17:11:54  
Thanks for all your info guys, you've been helpfull, Hobby Farm, I have swapped over to the gear type setup everything is in with new points and condenser, I have the motor up on TDC
with the FIRE mark showing on the flywheel,
What I need to know now is where is #1 on the dist. cap....LOL there are no tell tale marks that I can see, can you direct me to a mark or where to set the rotor at? that is where I am at now...

Thanks for all your help.....

Scott

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Scott Yoder

08-13-2006 08:55:44




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 18:14:57  
Ok, Last question? (I hope...LOL)

The tractor is reverse polarity, so negative sid eof the battery is hot, My question is.... Which side of the coil is hot + or- ?

Thanks again for all your help guys....

Scott



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old

08-13-2006 11:18:43




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-13-2006 08:55:44  
Sort of easy to figure out and this is true on all machines. If its + ground the + side goes to the distubutor on the coil and if - ground the - side goes to the distubutor. That is true on all engines



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08-10-2006 19:12:22




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 18:14:57  
On that type of set up it can be any of the four depending on where it is when you drop it in. Since you can turn it a full 360 you can have it on every one of them if you so choise. So get #1 at TDC and then pull the cap and see where the rotor is pointing and thats where #1 will be on the cap

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John T

08-10-2006 18:55:36




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 18:14:57  
No. 1 on the distributor cap is the terminal that the inside rotor tip is pointing to when the No. 1 cylinder is at TDC on its compression power stroke and the points should just be beginning to break open provided the distributor is in the correct rotational timing position then. The next distributor terminal wires to whatever cylinder is next in the firing order i.e. if the firing order were say 1 4 3 2 then the next tower would wire to cylinder No. 4 etc

John T

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John T

08-10-2006 15:06:13




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 Re: 1944 Allis Chalmers C mag to distributor swa in reply to Scott Yoder, 08-10-2006 14:50:14  
Scott, I dont know beans about if it will fit or mount or swap or any of that mechanical stuff but may be able to help you time it NO WARRANTY

Bring the number one cylinder up to TDC on its compression power stroke and at that time and distributor location the points should just be breaking open and the distributors rotor tip lined up with the external tower leading to that number one cylinder. Then the next time the points break open on the next cam lobe the distributors rotor tip should be lined up with whichever cylinder fires next (you need to know the firing order) as its on TDC of its compression power stroke.

I (have it hooked up and ignition on and plug wires removed but plugs hooked up n sides grounded) usually rotate the distributor to the maximum retard position/location,,,,, ,bring the number one cylinder up to dead TDC on its compression power stroke and stop right there,,,,, , then slowlyyyyy yyyyy yyyyy y rotate the distributor to the advance direction until that number one cylinder plug fires and lock her in that location.

This any help at alllll l ???? Let is know, best wishes n God Bless

John T

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