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manifold stud woes!!!

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i_like_tractors

08-28-2006 20:56:27




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My dad and I are restoring a late 51 model A. When we tried to remove the studs that hold the manifold, {{SNAP}}, {{SNAP}}, {{SNAP}}. Now we have a major setback. 3 broken off studs, and a lot of frustration. 2 of them broke off close to the head, and 1 is up about 2 inches. We got one of them out though thank god!! We have tryed many things such as: wd-40, heating the head then try to turn with vise-grip, and welding nut on the studs. We are running out of ideas fast!!! help us PLEASE!!

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Josh in Pa

08-29-2006 10:37:24




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 Re: manifold stud woes!!! in reply to i_like_tractors, 08-28-2006 20:56:27  
I had one and welded a nut to it. I didn't have much to weld to, but surprisingly it worked real well. I think thats the best option.
Josh



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John T

08-29-2006 06:16:00




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 Re: manifold stud woes!!! in reply to i_like_tractors, 08-28-2006 20:56:27  
Like Bob Ive had some luck when I first weld a flat washer direct over the broken stud cuz that prevents me from welding to the head and then weld a nut to the washer. Then I get a wrench on it and slowlyyyyy yyyyy using tapping hammer blows on the wrenches end to shock things loose NEVER use a hard dead pull and I milk her in n out in n out back n forth a lil at a time if she ever breaks loose.

John T

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Bob

08-28-2006 21:58:00




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 What 'cha work'in with???? in reply to i_like_tractors, 08-28-2006 20:56:27  
Several manufacturers made "Model A" tractors.

Oh, well, the procedure is the same no matter WHAT the brand...

Take a flat washer, and weld it to the broken stud, burning the weld down into the broken bolt as nuch as possible.

Allow it to cool to ambient.

Then, weld a nut to the washer, so you have something to grip to turn the broken stud.

When it has cooled a little, hold bee's wax or a candle against it, so some melts, and "wicks" down into the threads.

Allow it to cool to ambient, then try to rock the nut back and forth with a wrench, hopefully breaking the stud loose and unscrewing it.

If the weld breaks off the stud, repeat the procedure. Usually, the stud will break free from the repeated heating and cooling cycles from the welding.

A tip... "Easy Outs" aren't, and the use of one of them will, 98% of the time, lead to having to deal with trying to get it's hardened steel, broken remnant out of the still-stuck broken stud!

AVOID them!

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TimS

08-29-2006 13:06:24




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 Re: What 'cha work'in with???? in reply to Bob, 08-28-2006 21:58:00  
Heat it up, tap it inwards with a hammer, hit it with pbblaster or kroil ( much better than wd 40 ) tap it in with a hammer, weld on the washer and then weld on a nut...tap it in with a hammer.

Patience will get it done for you.



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