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Ryan Olson

09-24-2006 20:36:29




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i am currently working on my first restore...my grandpas 40 farmall M, and i was wondering if you all take your tractors down to bare metal before painting? This tractor has some very straight tin but it's all heavily rusted...

thanks Ryan Olson




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DonN Ohio

10-08-2006 14:53:05




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to Ryan Olson, 09-24-2006 20:36:29  
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I am currently working on a 48 Cub.This is what you shop may look like as you start. Some of the sheet metal is out being sand blasted, Fenders, floor pan ect. The transmission case and final drive cases will go next, after all the guts are removed. the guy that does my blasting does not charge for setup, this helps. As was noted in another post you can buget your self and pay as you can. It doesn't take big bucks just a lot of patience.

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Brad_bb

09-29-2006 12:44:41




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to Ryan Olson, 09-24-2006 20:36:29  
Does this help?



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B-maniac

09-25-2006 11:44:58




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to Ryan Olson, 09-24-2006 20:36:29  
I would take it down to metal. Even though the paint looks good there's a 99% chance that there are microscopic rust spots onder that paint.When you sand a spot,you will probably see this. I know it sometimes seems like a waste of time,but OLD paint wasn't that good when it was new.Never use old paint as a foundation for the new. You won't regret going to bare metal. Disreguard all the opinions on what restoration means and do the ole "M" however makes you happy and fits your budget. It's one more saved. Good Luck.

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CalJim

09-24-2006 22:36:03




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to Ryan Olson, 09-24-2006 20:36:29  
Old is right....seems like most guys these days
pull the hood,maybe tape off a couple things and
slap some paint on. That is NOT a restoration... If your grandpa's M is really rusted you need
to dissamble the tractor down to the block and
rear case. You will pay $300 to $800 to have all
those parts sandblasted to bare metal. If it needs any engine or trans. work have that done
also. Take care of all misc. items, rebuilt gen.
radiator core,etc. Make sure you have your paint
when parts come back from blaster, paint a.s.a.p.
or they will rust. What I have described here is
not a cheap undertaking, but it can be done in
stages as budget allows.
Think of it this way, if you do it the right way
now it will last another 60 years....CalJim

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old

09-24-2006 21:13:50




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to Ryan Olson, 09-24-2006 20:36:29  
Well first off to really restore a tractor you need to take out all bolts etc and rebuild it from the ground up. Now to just fix one up thats another story. My self when I paint one I take it down only as far as I have to. So if it still has paint on it and its holding on good I only ruff it up. If its pure rust I take it down to the metal. Sorry I hate the word restore because most people never really restore a tractor they just paint it but don't really do much more

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rustyj14

10-30-2006 17:51:08




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 Re: Bare Metal? in reply to old, 09-24-2006 21:13:50  
Hey, Old: When i worked in auto body work, if we had to replace a part, we'd sand, prime,and paint the inner edges and areas, let that paint dry, then install the part, mask off as needed, then paint the outside areas. If there were places where there were bolts that showed out side, we'd paint the outside of the bolt holes, and after all was back together, then we'd paint the fenders or panels. This got paint on the bolt heads and underneath them, too. And the sockets didn't take off the paint.

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