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Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance?

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Dave in Missour

04-06-2007 08:18:05




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Anybody ever rebuild a B&S engine and do performance modifications? I'm just starting on a 1972 Huffy riding mower and thought I'd check. I am taking the mowing deck off to use the mower as a small tractor to putt around the yard. Any tips, ideas or links to websites will be greatly appreciated.




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Oldmax

05-14-2007 04:57:57




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
Save yourself some money and go buy a bigger engine . The relibalty of the engine drops with each mod you bdo to it .



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Davis In SC

04-09-2007 19:51:50




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
Back in the 70's, they did a lot of mods to 5 horse Briggs for minibikes... Unbreakable con rod, porting, cam, Lake carb, some claimed to get 30 HP from a 5 HP Briggs...



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Mike M

04-09-2007 12:07:45




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
I thought someone sells something under the name blockzilla ? or something like that.



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Stumpalump

04-07-2007 20:23:09




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
Pull the head and mill it. It's aluminum and you can sand it down. Next pull the valves and port it. It's aluminum also and a rat tail file and some sand paper is all you need. You can pull the choke butterfly to make it breath and you will be amazed. Hook the throttle right to the throttle shaft instead of the governor and use about 18" pipe for the exhoust. Port the intake a lot but just clean up the exhoust port mildly.
Don't be discouraged by the HP gain numbers listed on websites because the power to weight ratio makes it seem like a huge gain.

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john d

04-06-2007 19:41:57




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
I'd suggest you start with the link at the bottom of this post. It's related to power lawn mower racing, and may have some of what you need.

Another possibility is the go-kart application for Briggs engines. Here's a link that has some technical data, but is probably geared mostly to the 5 hp engines that are so widely used in karting. http://www.compgoparts.com/

Some of what you want can be done through experimentation. As long as you don't intend to mow with it again, you can do several things to make it go faster. I used to have a little tractor that I used to pull my kids on a sled in the snow, and it was a lot of fun.

Most of my experience in hopping up Briggs engines was with the 3hp size in the school power mechanics class I used to teach. Sometimes a kid would decide to do a project of that sort, and it was usually with a smaller engine than yours. Many of the techniques will work the same on your engine.

First, defeating the upper rpm limit of the governor will gain speed, and possibly a little hp. Governed speed is probably 3600 rpm. It will still breathe pretty well at 4500 rpm. It WILL run faster, but it may not last long once you go past 5000.

If you can mill the head to increase compression ratio, that will gain power. I suggest keeping at least .025" clearance between the head and the top of the valves when they open. While you've got the head off, check the valves to see if they are in good condition, or need to be resurfaced.

It's sometimes possible to swap or modify some parts in the crankcase on SOME Briggs engines and gain a little bit. You will need more than imagination, a hammer and a file to do this, but if you have access to a milling machine and lathe, you can play games in there. For example, the piston CAN be made lighter by carefully drilling some holes in the skirt. Radius all hole edges to remove burrs, and don't get carried away. This will let your engine rev more quickly. On the little 3 hp engines, we used to remove the camshaft and cut the gear off the cam. Then we'd use a lathe to drill a 1/2" hole through the gear. A cam from a 5hp engine could have the gear cut off, and the end of the camshaft machined to go through the gear from the 3hp engine. The cam has to be machined to the exact LENGTH of the original 3hp cam and the shaft area between the lobes ground a little bit to clear the connecting rod, but it CAN be fitted into the 3hp block. The gear is locked onto the shaft with a setscrew in a hole drilled between two teeth all the way to the center of the gear. Once you have the gear and cam lobes timed correctly, the screw (with locktite) is tightened. That 5hp cam with its greater lift really wakes up a 3hp engine. If you find a cam from a larger engine, It might be possible to do the same thing to your 8hp.

The old hot-rodding admonition "Speed costs money; how fast do you want to go?" applies to your situation.

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old timer in Ohio

04-06-2007 13:27:02




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
I don't remember their name but I know
they used to and maybe still do build
small racing engines for go kart racers
their phone #is 330 868 7875 and if my memory serves me right their won more
than lost
hope I have helped you Bob

God Bless



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old

04-06-2007 10:57:21




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 Re: Briggs Stratton 8 HP--Build for performance? in reply to Dave in Missouri, 04-06-2007 08:18:05  
Depending on what engine you have you can some times go with a bigger carb. For instance if it has say a 6 HP engine you some times can put a carb off a 7 or 8 hp engine and up the HP a little. You can also some times bore the engine out and go with a bigger piston and even mill the head a little but you have to be careful milling the head or you can have the vlave hitting the head and cause problems. Also if you find you need some parts I have a lot of old B/S engine parts laying around from a bunch of old ones I have played with in the past

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