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GeneMO

04-17-2007 11:27:00




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I read the posts, went to some internet sites and built a 55 gallon tank with re-bars for electrodes. Put it on a base with wheels the whole bit. My problem. I didn't know much about the washing soda, but bought 4 boxes. Tried to figure out the strength and ended up putting all 4 boxes in about 45-50 gallon. I tried 2 different battery chargers and they will not work on 12 volt, the reset keeps tripping. The one charger has a 6 volt setting at 6 amps. It will hold the charge at 6 volt. I am getting lots of bubbles and it appears to be working. I started it Sunday afternoon. My question is, will the 6 volt work as good as 12? Are we looking for amps or volts? Maybe I mixed the solution too strong and that is why the 12v keeps kicking off?

Thanks in advance, Gene

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Randy Losey

04-26-2007 09:33:51




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
I want to build one of these things and have read many post over the last year and was wondering if differnet people that have one of these could email me some pictures so I can have a few at some of the differnt ideas on what all has worked showing tanks, sac. metal used etc. any addition information will be appreciated.



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Bruce(OR)

04-26-2007 01:19:47




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
Got the plastic 50 gallon tank hooked up and running with sodium hydroxide (Lye). 8 rebar rods down the side, held in place with "U" bolt clamps through the sides and wired together with alligator clips and 10 guage wire. Pos cable from a 2/40/200 amp charger with internal circuit breaker and cooling fan hooked up and set on the 2 amp scale. This is connected to the sacraficial rebar anodes. The neg cable goes to the part that needs to be cleaned via a chain or a wire.
The amount of Lye in the tank, effective to remove grease, paint and rust has an effect on current draw as well as proximity of the anodes to the part to be cleaned. It only took me two dismal weeks of less than stellar results of rust removal to figure out the proximinty calculations. By that time I had overdosed on the lye and have kept it that way. Cleaning grease is very useful! I just keep the charger on two amps setting and make sure it does not pull over 30 amps through the charger.

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GreyHOund

04-21-2007 17:42:16




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
You are looking for amps. The amount of time it takes to clean a part is based on the current through the solution. Voltage change will not affect the time much. If lots of bubbles are coming up, its working. I hope the wheels on your drum are to wheel it to some ventilation...gotta watch you dont light up the shop.



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sambear

04-18-2007 08:57:47




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
Visit>Link

According>Link to their web page the mix is five gallons of water with 1/3 to 1/2 of a cup of laundry soda (a.k.a. washing soda).

Hope this helps,
sambear



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TexasWren

04-18-2007 07:19:24




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
I use washing soda, and it will remove paint. It just takes longer. As long as it"s making bubbles, it"s working.



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Bob Van

04-17-2007 19:53:59




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to GeneMO, 04-17-2007 11:27:00  
I have used this process using either table salt or sodium hydroxide {lye}. I assume you are using a plastic drum. Using a 12 volt charger, start with water and add washing soda, salt or lye while stirring liquid until charger needle comes up to or near max charge capacity of charger. Time required depends on amount of rust to remove. I have not used washing soda but with lye it also removes paint. Hope this helps.

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rhouston

04-26-2007 06:53:44




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 Re: Help with electrolysis in reply to Bob Van, 04-17-2007 19:53:59  
Just a small caution about using salt. one of the byproducts of hydrolysis in a salt solution is chlorine gas.



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