Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Restoration & Repair Tips Board

1950 8N Ford

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Oldarkie

07-15-2007 14:23:19




Report to Moderator

I have a 1950 8N Ford that has been converted from 6 volt to 12 volt. I have been told there is an electronic ignition that can be installed where the points and condenser are that will do away with the points and condenser. Is there anyone out there that has installed the electric ignition? If so, what are the pros and cons with this system, and how do you install it? I am not trying to make a show tractor as I use it on the farm every day. Thanks to all for any info you may have. Oldarkie

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
souNdguy

07-16-2007 07:33:55




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to Oldarkie, 07-15-2007 14:23:19  
Mnay places to get them.. probably at the parts section right here.

Pro / con?

Some of the pro's are that you don't have to worry about points corosion,,a nd cam lobe wear for the points rubbing block

Con's.. fewer for the 12v than the 6v.. except that the modules are extremly polarity sensitive... reverse the battery polarity for an instant and you let the 150$ worth of magic smoke out of it..

Soundguy

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
oldarkie

07-16-2007 19:39:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to souNdguy, 07-16-2007 07:33:55  
Thanks for the info soundguy. The points keep grounding out and of course the tractor won't start. Have changed the points three times along with condenser, cap, and rotor. Still won't start. It is getting 12 volts to the coil. I had made some plastic washers and finally got the thing running but in the process it has ruined the battery so I need to find out why the points keep grounding out. So far no one has been able to come up with the problem. I am open to any ideas anyone has as to why the points keep grounding out. Thanks to all for the help!! Oldarkie

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy

07-16-2007 20:04:19




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to oldarkie, 07-16-2007 19:39:54  
If this is a sidemount I'd look at the copepr strip from the feedthru insulator grommet . Also.. check the breakerplate itself... may be bad phenolic washer ( they make replacement breaker plates for this reason.

Another reason may be incorrect ponts hold down screws that are too long.. etc.

Use your ohm meter or test lamp and start pulling things apart to find the short.. etc.

Soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
oldarkie

07-16-2007 20:11:51




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to soundguy, 07-16-2007 20:04:19  
Soundguy, this is a front mount. Is there something different I should be looking for with the front mount that might be different than the side mount? Thanks, oldarkie



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy

07-16-2007 20:28:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to oldarkie, 07-16-2007 20:11:51  
I'd still look at the breaker plate.

Soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy

07-18-2007 18:32:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to soundguy, 07-16-2007 20:28:01  
While it may be a sloppy 12v conversion.. that won't have -anything- to do with your breaker shorting. Which would either have to be the breakers themselves at the pivot.. or the b-plate.. or points screw where the coil touches.. etc.

soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
oldarkie

07-18-2007 18:25:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to soundguy, 07-16-2007 20:28:01  
Soundguy, had the breaker plate checked and it is suppose to be ok. Finally went and talked to a guy that knows these little ford tractors from front to back. When I unloaded it off the trailer the first thing he said was that the 12 volt conversion was the worst and sloppiest job he had ever seen. He said when I get it back it will be right because he won't let it out of his shop until it is correct. Thanks for responding to my question and have a good day. Oldarkie!!

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy

07-18-2007 18:41:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to oldarkie, 07-18-2007 18:25:45  
While it may be a sloppy 12v conversion.. that won't have -anything- to do with your breaker shorting. Which would either have to be the breakers themselves at the pivot.. or the b-plate.. or points screw where the coil touches.. etc.

soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RickB

07-20-2007 17:27:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to soundguy, 07-18-2007 18:41:33  
12 volts to the coil and an eyes-on diagnosis of a sloppy conversion tells me there is a steady diet of 12 volts to the stock coil which can only handle 4 volts. This will trash breaker points almost immediately. Proper input matching to that particular coil can be an alternative to an electronic ignition conversion. Not that there is anything wrong with electronic ignition; they are perfectly fine.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy

07-20-2007 21:04:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: 1950 8N Ford in reply to RickB, 07-20-2007 17:27:33  
I'd look for breakers to fail 'open' rather than 'short' in an overcurrent situation.. unless they simply welded shut.. or melted the rubbing block tot he point that the cam lobes no longer produce an 'open' on rotation.

In any case.. I'd get the electrical system deloused before i switched to an e-ignition.... Don't want to compound problems.. makes them harder to troubleshoot..

soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy