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Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation?

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RWB

11-22-2007 18:30:24




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I have a front end loader bucket that I adapted to my loader but the bucket does not dump at a large enough angle to empty the bucket very well. The cylinders are 24" reach. I saw a John Deere loader once that had an "L"-shaped cam lever type setup that seemed to extend or multiply the range of the cylinder and the bucket dump angle.
Anyone have any plans or know where I might find such a set up to get a greater range in the dump angle?

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Don-Wi

11-23-2007 23:35:18




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 Re: Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation? in reply to RWB, 11-22-2007 18:30:24  
Simple. The holes need to be moved one way or the other. (ok so not so simple, but that's the problem)

If you need more dump when up high, move the holes farther apart. If you need more curl, move them close together. To much one way or the other and you will have the opposite problem.

Every loader is different depending on the size of the cylinders, and where the mounts are located. That's why some need a 24" cylinder (or 2) while another of the same size can get away with an 8" stroke cylinder.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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JMS/.MN

11-24-2007 16:45:22




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 Re: Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation? in reply to Don-Wi, 11-23-2007 23:35:18  
I disagree with you- depending how the loader and bucket are built. If the pivot of the bucket is on the bottom, moving the cylinder pivot hole farther away (higher) will reduce the amount of tilt that is accomplished by the same amount of ram travel. By reducing the distance between bucket pivot and where the cylinder is mounted to the bucket, you will increase tilt AND rollback. Draw it out on graph paper. Fulcrum, arm, lever.

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Don-Wi

11-24-2007 23:03:56




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 Re: Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation? in reply to JMS/.MN, 11-24-2007 16:45:22  
Thought about it and I guess you're right. Either way, sounds like the pivot holes on his bucket need to be moved.


Donovan from Wisconsin



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old

11-22-2007 19:36:32




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 Re: Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation? in reply to RWB, 11-22-2007 18:30:24  
Take a cam and go look at heavy equipment places. Cat uses a sort of thing like that and I have taken trip buckets and done it also. Hard to explain on here but yes you can use a couple of ways to do that. But it can be fun tring to figure all the angles out



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PaulW_NJ

11-22-2007 18:54:40




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 Re: Cam lever to extend loader bucket rotation? in reply to RWB, 11-22-2007 18:30:24  
I have just the opposite problem. I wish the Wagner loader on my IH 240U would curl back a few inches further for better holding when moving a load. I'll be watching with interest the responses you get.



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