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Jonathan Mann

10-26-2001 10:09:23

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I install geothermal heating and air conditioning systems , and the out door loop has to have antifreeze in it for heating purposes( long story). We use propelyn glycol for the antifreeze. It is expensive somewhat but is epa approved and I don't think as near corrosive as calcium chloride. I think it is 8$ a gallon , if you know someone at a cola bottling plant they have access to it as it is also an ingredient in a lot of soft drinks. This may not even be worth checking into?

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Greaseman

12-19-2001 16:28:20

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

I was told to use winshield wiper solution as it won't poison kids/animals/dogs ,etc. I just havn't found anyone to attempt to pump it in, in my area.

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Greaseman

12-19-2001 16:28:19

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

I was told to use winshield wiper solution as it won't poison kids/animals/dogs ,etc. I just havn't found anyone to attempt to pump it in, in my area.

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PaulCtOH

11-12-2001 00:36:10

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

Is there any place cheaper than Gemplers to buy a loading pump?

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Tyler(WA)

10-29-2001 08:52:00

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

Jonathan,
Why do you want filled tires? If it's for ballast, then go for the best weight for the gallon. CaCl is safe when used inside good bladders (tubes.) If it does leak out, it's not an environmental catastrophy and will dilute with rain. It won't poison any squirls or water wells either.

It's been the choice of farmers and construction workers for two simple reasons.

1) It's heavier than water at somewhere between 11 and 13 lbs./gal while antifreeze comes in lighter than plain water (6 to 7 lbs./gal.)

2) It's cheap and available anywhere.

There is a beet pulp mix that's shown promise but it's difficult to pump in and not available in most places.

The only time CaCl becomes a problem is with a slow leak inside the tire. Even with that, rim rot takes a long time. My 60's MF has had filled tires all it's life and at least one bad tube replaced. The only rust to the rims was surface rust that was easily removed.

The hype over CaCl is just that. Don't let it keep you from a superior product.

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paul

10-30-2001 23:51:59

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Re: Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Tyler(WA), 10-29-2001 08:52:00

I'm with Tyler on this one.

--->Paul

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Johnbob

10-26-2001 14:57:28

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

I use used auto anti freeze.You can get free at most auto repair places.I strain it thru a paint filter.

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Kelvin

10-26-2001 12:52:34

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Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 10:09:23

When I bought new rear tires last spring, the dealer said that Firestone was reccommending plain old Ethylene Glycol (regular car antifreeze) for tires now. He said that they no longer reccommended alcohol antifreeze.

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Jonathan Mann

10-26-2001 15:16:00

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Re: Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Kelvin, 10-26-2001 12:52:34

Propolyne glycol is not an alcohol antifreeze, and if your tire explodes don't worry about the cows eating the propolyne because it is a non toxic substance TOXICITY: LD50 (ORAL-RAT)(G/KG) - 20

LD50 (SKN-RABBIT) (G/KG) - 20.8

LD50 (IPR-RAT) (G/KG) - 0013

CARCINOGENICITY: NTP: NO IARC: NO Z LIST: NO OSHA REG:

NO MEDICAL CONDITIONS GENERALLY AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE

NONE IDENTIFIED

I believe automotive antifreeze is somewhat more dangerous to the environment.

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LarryG

11-09-2001 05:11:39

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Re: Re: Re: Product to load tires with in reply to Jonathan Mann, 10-26-2001 15:16:00

The next time you sit down to dinner with your low fat salad dressing, read the label - you've probably been eating this stuff for years. Also look at some of your medications, your wife's lipstick, etc. It's the antifreeze that they use for giving protection to camper water systems, winterizing your summer cottage, etc. It's not so much the antifreeze that kills you if you drink auto antifreeze - it's the rust inhibitor. Myself, I use the the salad dressing made with soybean oil, or something I knew was grown, not a product of a petrochem plant..... .

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John Mann

11-09-2001 15:22:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Product to load tires with in reply to LarryG, 11-09-2001 05:11:39

Does non toxic mean you can eat this stuff?

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