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John Deere A Alternator-Easy Solution-Cheap

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Pappy

03-02-2008 15:15:11




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Bought a "52 "A" in good condition. Only thing missing was the generator and voltage regulator. The elderly man selling it could not remember where they went. Anyway, since I want the tractor to be usable at night, with bright halogen lights, a red tail light and a trailer light connection, I decided to use an alternator instead of the generator. A good generator and voltage regulator would have cost much more than a rebuilt 10SI Delco Alternator. ($32.00)

The ignition switch was somewhat worn, so I decided to replace it also. Got to thinking about it and got a four terminal ignition switch which fits in the "A" dash perfectly. ($8.95).

I built an alternator bracket to fit on the original generator bracket, without modification of the original bracket. Don"t like to chop up good original parts. Once everything was installed, I wanted to avoid the diodes, light bulbs and such that is commonly referred to when installing an alternator.

I hooked up the alternator exciter wire to the accessory terminal on the new switch. Then I found that if I reverse the battery wire and the ignition wire on the switch, there will be no feedback from the alternator, to energize the ignition and keep it running with the switch turned off. Also, there is not current flowing to the alternator to run the battery down when in storage. System works perfectly, plenty of amperage for all the lights and a total cost of $41.00.

And as I said--No diodes or light bulbs to fool with.

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Bob

03-02-2008 22:22:34




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 Re: John Deere A Alternator-Easy Solution-Cheap in reply to D-C-741, 03-02-2008 15:15:11  

Pappy said: (quoted from post at 00:22:15 03/03/08) Bob----One has to take an analog VOM and examine the switch to understand how it works. Actually, I did this conversion 5 or 6 years ago and just never got around to writing about it.

Also, you would have to know my electrical background to understand my thinking on this.


I UNDERSTAND how the switch works. It's NOT rocket science!

I have an electrical background, as well, and repair alternators for a living.

THAT is WHY I know your method is NOT a good idea.
But to each his own! HOWEVER, your are NOT doing a favor to others by encouraging a method that MAY lead to premature alternator failure!

CARRY ON!

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Pappy

03-02-2008 21:22:15




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 Re: John Deere A Alternator-Easy Solution-Cheap in reply to Pappy, 03-02-2008 15:15:11  
Bob----One has to take an analog VOM and examine the switch to understand how it works. Actually, I did this conversion 5 or 6 years ago and just never got around to writing about it.

Also, you would have to know my electrical background to understand my thinking on this.



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Bob

03-02-2008 20:55:12




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 Re: John Deere A Alternator-Easy Solution-Cheap in reply to Greasey Hand, 03-02-2008 15:15:11  

Pappy said: (quoted from post at 18:15:11 03/02/08) Bought a "52 "A" in good condition. Only thing missing was the generator and voltage regulator. The elderly man selling it could not remember where they went. Anyway, since I want the tractor to be usable at night, with bright halogen lights, a red tail light and a trailer light connection, I decided to use an alternator instead of the generator. A good generator and voltage regulator would have cost much more than a rebuilt 10SI Delco Alternator. ($32.00)
The ignition switch was somewhat worn, so I decided to replace it also. Got to thinking about it and got a four terminal ignition switch which fits in the "A" dash perfectly. ($8.95).

I built an alternator bracket to fit on the original generator bracket, without modification of the original bracket. Don"t like to chop up good original parts. Once everything was installed, I wanted to avoid the diodes, light bulbs and such that is commonly referred to when installing an alternator.

I hooked up the alternator exciter wire to the accessory terminal on the new switch. Then I found that if I reverse the battery wire and the ignition wire on the switch, there will be no feedback from the alternator, to energize the ignition and keep it running with the switch turned off. Also, there is not current flowing to the alternator to run the battery down when in storage. System works perfectly, plenty of amperage for all the lights and a total cost of $41.00.

And as I said--No diodes or light bulbs to fool with.


There's a "good" chance that you'll have problems with the alternator's internal regulator or diode trio sometime "down the road" because of the "no diode or idiot lamp" shortcut you are SO proud of. Auto companies cut costs to the bone, yet GM still used a lamp and/or a resistor in the "excite circuit". Do YOU think you are smarter than the folks who invented that alternator AND the GM corporate "bean counters"???

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