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Bob Smith

09-12-2002 19:08:01




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Anyone got any tricks on dealing with pitted metal on implements after sandblasting?
I've heard that PPG makes a epoxy primer that fills imperfections in cast iron anyone had any experience with this product?
It sure would be a lot of work to use a filler and sand all the parts flat again! but I've seen implements that were paintd without doing anything about the pitting and they just did'nt look good! any ideas would sure help my old fingers out! thanks Bob Smith

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LarryG

10-02-2002 06:20:24




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 Re: pitted metal in reply to Bob Smith, 09-12-2002 19:08:01  
Has anybody used solder to fill in pits after sandblasting? I recall a body shop used lead on an old volkswagon my Dad had that needed some filling after an accident.



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charles

09-15-2002 04:41:09




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 Re: pitted metal in reply to Bob Smith, 09-12-2002 19:08:01  
JD did have a primer/filler that tehy say can be used on pitted metal. I have a qt - have not tried it yet.



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Dave_Id

09-13-2002 15:29:45




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 Re: pitted metal in reply to Bob Smith, 09-12-2002 19:08:01  
After you spray on the epoxy primer, you can use their (PPG) sanding surfacer... build it up with 3-4 coats. and sand with 220 paper on a flat stick... the larger pits will have to be filled with some kind of putty before the sanding surfacer. ...you then need another coat of epoxy primer before applying your base coat if you are using 2 stage paint



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Rod (NH)

09-12-2002 21:51:02




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 Re: pitted metal in reply to Bob Smith, 09-12-2002 19:08:01  
Hi Bob,

Yes, PPG makes a great epoxy primer but it is not for filling...it is for priming bare metal and does not provide the film build necessary to fill any significant imperfections. I would recommend that after sandblasting you do, in fact, use an epoxy primer to prepare the raw metal surfaces. To fill rust pits, etc, I would use a two-part polyester putty. 3M makes it along with a couple of other manufacturers. It is really similar to "bondo" plastic filler...but is very smooth, not unlike creamy, runny, peanut butter. For the epoxy primer you will find that there are two alternatives from PPG. One is the high end product called DPLF. This is fairly expensive at around $130/gal. A more cost effective epoxy primer is PPG's OMNI MP-170 at something like half that. Both are two part systems that require a catalyst additive. Be aware that both epoxy primers have to be topcoated within a specific time window or they should be scuff-sanded and re-applied before topcoating. The DPLF has a 7 day window (as I recall) and the MP-170 has a 3 day window.

I don't think you are going to get away from a lot of sanding in dealing with rust pits and similar imperfections if you want a smooth surface. 3M makes a sprayable polyester primer-filler but I have not used it. I believe it is a heavier build than conventional primer-surfacers for filling sandscratches, etc. It would not eliminate the required sanding though.

Rod

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roy

09-16-2002 16:03:39




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 Re: Re: pitted metal in reply to Rod (NH), 09-12-2002 21:51:02  
i use spot putty in a tube.



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