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ELW/TN

01-14-2004 20:36:21




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My bent lower lift arm cracked while trying to straighten it. Two welders say it's useless to weld as the high tensile steel loses its strength and would probably crack due to welding stresses.

New lift arms for MF35's w/33" centers are in the $80 range. Is there a way to repair one of these things without losing the tensile strength, like proper use of heat, and peening?




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TO35

01-20-2004 02:41:40




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 Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-14-2004 20:36:21  
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Hi ELW, I repaired my lift arm much like t-bone suggest but did a cut out as you can see in this picture.I did that over 3 years ago now and its still holding. I used just heat,oil and plate metal and my welder.

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TO35



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ELW/TN

01-20-2004 21:00:59




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 Re: Re: cracked lift arm in reply to TO35, 01-20-2004 02:41:40  
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What type plate metal did you use? Was it hard, like the lift arm metal, or can I use mild steel?

Sending photo just for heck of it.



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TO35

01-21-2004 03:00:05




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 Re: Re: Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-20-2004 21:00:59  
It was a piece of mild steel plate I bought at our local welding shop. Mine was broken in the exact same place as yours. I laid the plate on a table and centered the arm on top of it and traced out the pattern you saw usuing the bolt hole as center. Then I cut out 2 inches of the lift arm and then the traced portion of the plate, then just Matched them up and welded them. Then redrilled the hole, lastly I heated the hole plate to almost cherry red and quinched it with oil. It may not be how other's would have done it but that repair has held, and I use my tractor almost daily and have had no problems.

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TO

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ELW/TN

01-20-2004 16:25:44




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 Re: Re: cracked lift arm in reply to TO35, 01-20-2004 02:41:40  
That's a nice looking repair job. Bet that sucker won't break!

Question: how did you get the photo to show up on my screen?



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T_Bone

01-19-2004 07:34:36




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 Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-14-2004 20:36:21  
Hi ELW,

You need anneal the steel 2" on either side of the weld zone before welding. Heat to a bright red the let air cool until cold. Then preheat too 400f, then weld with 7018, 7014, 7024, then heat too a dull red then quench in oil, finish grind, then reheat too 500f (lead bath works well) for 1hr for every one inch in thickness (adds temper), then quench in oil.

Make sure the torch flame is a reducing flame and not a oxidizing flame. Anotherwords "slightly" more Acetylene than Oxygen.

T_Bone

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ELW/TN

01-19-2004 11:39:42




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 Re: Re: cracked lift arm in reply to T_Bone, 01-19-2004 07:34:36  
Thanks for your good advice. Some of this I can do myself but will have to get professional help on most of it. Beginning to think it would be better all around to get a new lift arm.



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Wayne

01-15-2004 21:23:16




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 Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-14-2004 20:36:21  
Like Allen said I'd V it out and weld it back with a 7018 rod. Also like he said let it cool slowly. The way we do it when we have something like this is to cover the weld area in oil dry, that tends to hold the heat in and allows it to cool alot slower. If your not satisfied with the repair like it is, grind the weld off flush and weld a plate on each side for added strength. I've welded on many replacement ball ends over the years, which is basically the same weld your wanting to do only in a different place on the arm, and never had one break off yet. Good luck.

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old

01-15-2004 13:38:51




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 Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-14-2004 20:36:21  
I've welded them up before but I used a high strenth rod sorry I don't remember the # also ni rod works well, I tried 7018 and it broke again



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Allen,TN

01-14-2004 22:00:17




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 Re: cracked lift arm in reply to ELW/TN, 01-14-2004 20:36:21  
After the arm is straight I would vee out the crack with a grinder. Make several passes with a 7018 rod. When done welding I would let it cool slowly out of the wind.After all thats how most ball ends on lift arms are replaced. Tractor Supply sells a 7018 AC rod that works well with buzz box type welders.



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