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Ed TN

01-24-2004 21:35:06




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An incredibly stuck fender / stabilizer brkt bolt has apparently formed a molecular bond with the rear axle housing (MF35). (see photo)

It doesn't respond to beating with a sledgehammer, twisting with a wrench, driving in a wedge, or cussing. Is there a way to hook a lightning rod to one of these?

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D13

02-22-2004 05:23:52




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
Same problem on my MF 50.

1. Grind bolt end where it's been hammered so it is smaller than the hole.
2. Jack up tractor 1/2", put another jackstand under bolt, and lower slowly.
3. Soak in PB Blaster
4. Go away for the weekend.
5. heat with a torch until PB starts to smoke.
6. Wait 2 minutes and apply more PB. Rap smartly with hammer.
7. Repeat 5,6,7 until totally frustrated. Then repeat 3 and 4.

You can get them out without heat but it will take a long time. If you decide to drill cut the bottom of the bolt as close to the casting as possible first, and be sure to center punch. Also, once you have drilled up past the lower casting ear, try the heating trick again.

Stuck bolts stink.

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Nolan

01-27-2004 06:47:03




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
Sometimes they do form that bond. But if you've been beating on the bottom with a sledge, you've quite likely swelled the shank and it's not going to come out now. Cut the top off, get the fender out of the way, and work it down.

Think I'll have to try that ammonia trick that was suggested.



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Uncle

01-27-2004 04:06:24




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
I would cut the heads of the bolts off, remove the fender to gain easy access to the rest of the job...Use caution with the torch as not to blow a hole in the fender while in there cutting...then soak it good and tap with a hammer from above , then from below , try moving it each way and use the confidence in a can of your choice!



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Kevin (FL)

01-26-2004 19:27:23




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
Ed,

Set up your hydraulic jack on that side to jack on the bottom of the bolt. Leave your jack stand in place or better yet, place some blocking under the axle to be safe. Jack the axle up several inches where there's plenty of weight on the bolt. Then apply some heat to the housing pad around the bolt--try your best to keep the heat off the bolt. Once you get the housing heated up a little and the bolt doesn't move up (actually the rear axle will move down to the blocking) try hitting the housing with a 2 # maul with sharp raps. If you need more power, use an 8 or 10 # maul, but I would recommend an oak block to soften the blows--don't want to crack any housings here...If that doesn't work then make two cuts in the bolt in the center area so that there's at least a 1" gap. The lower half should then push up and then you'll only have the top half to deal with. Now you can place a pin through the lower hole and set up the jacking method the same way. As a last resort you can always burn the bolt out.

Another (slower) method is to drill the bolt out but that'll be a lot of work. We won't go there unless you want to...

Say a prayer or two to keep up your patience and ask for some wisdom too...

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Wayne

01-25-2004 22:12:09




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
If your a glutton for punishment you can soak it with penetrating oil of some type for several days and then try getting it out. Personally I swear by PB Blaster. If you want to do it the easiest way, and the way less prone to make a preacher cuss, then Fern has the best idea. If it were mine or a customers I'd use a torch too.



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CRUSADER

01-25-2004 13:44:32




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
I found that (when accessable) household ammonia works well on dissolving the molecular cohesion that metal and rust will build. You may give it a try and some patience. The results are hard to believe especially when it turns loose after all other attempts have failed.

later days mate,
Jim



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bob

02-15-2004 09:05:16




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 Re: Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to CRUSADER, 01-25-2004 13:44:32  
i have run into this before and use my 1/2 " impact. first one way then the other. if that doesn't work i get the 3/4 impact. if that doesn't work i get out the torch.



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Fern(Mi)

01-25-2004 01:42:07




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 Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Ed TN, 01-24-2004 21:35:06  
Me! A pair of sun glasses and a torch. Had some other ideas involving hammer and punch knocking out smaller pieces. How delicate a job this is, I've no idea, as I don't know what a (MF35) is or relative size.
Have fun.



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Loon Yi

01-25-2004 22:21:04




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 Re: Re: incredibly stuck bolt in reply to Fern(Mi), 01-25-2004 01:42:07  
The heat wrench looks good for this one!



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