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Larry from Mary

12-27-2001 14:27:02




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Can anyone recomend a place to get a castiron piston oversized.The places I found are on the west coast and I am in maryland.




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Chuck

01-09-2002 09:39:44




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
Several years ago I called a place in New York that could build up pistons for my 10-20 titan. I think it was called Niagra Piston. I think I still have the number but could me days to find as it is somewhere with my IH literature.If this place is of interest to please post and I will try to find.



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Jerry S

01-05-2002 07:34:44




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
Not sure where they are but there is an outfit called Egge who says they will build pistons for you and they specialize in hard to find or obsolete parts. I hear they have a website too. In my catalog they need to have certain dimensions and they might well have what you need in stock but it might have also fit some other brand. Some engines they carry parts for are older than yours. Hope that can do you some good. I would think a new piston would hold up better than trying to remake one.

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ron g

01-01-2002 16:13:15




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
i found this, while on the web tEngine parts. Vintage/obsolete

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By ramit (spider-ta071.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.205.76) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 07:57 pm:

Vintage Engine Machine Works: We have been supplying and re-manufacturing engine parts for over 40 years.

If we don't have it or if me can't locate your engine parts we will make them.

PARTS: Pistons, piston rings, gaskets, head and manifold gaskets made to order, connecting rod, main, cam shaft bearings, bushings, valves,valve seats valve springs,

MACHINE WORK: One of the countrys most complete engine machine shop, specializing in VINTAGE and OBSOLETE ENGINE PARTS RESTOREATION.

RE-BABBITTING: Rod bearings, Main bearings, cam shaft bearings, Bushings Re-Babbitted,

Cam shaft re-grinding, cam shaft lobe build up, cam followers re-ground,

Crank shaft re-grinding, crank shaft journals built up and ground,

In the frame crank shaft grinding, connecting rod journals.

Splines, gears, key ways re-paired,stainless steel welded, machine cut, and precision ground,


Cracked: head, block, exhaust manifold welding. Aluminum welding.We are experts in metal spraying the imposible weld re-pair projects.

Pistons metal sprayed over size and cam ground to original factory specs.

VALVES, valve seats made to order, valve springs, valve guides,

Plesae call with your needs toll free 1.800.233.6934 e-mail 1.509.999.2119 24/7 jbvintage@aol.com www.ramengine.com

Jack H. Bunton President CEO MBWA ASE Master Engine Consultant.

Vintage Engine Machine Works 604 N. Freya St. Spokane, Washington 99202

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ron g

01-01-2002 16:13:13




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
i found this, while on the web tEngine parts. Vintage/obsolete

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ANTIQUE CATERPILLAR MACHINERY OWNERS CLUB: BULLETIN BOARD: Engine parts. Vintage/obsolete ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --
By ramit (spider-ta071.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.205.76) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 07:57 pm:

Vintage Engine Machine Works: We have been supplying and re-manufacturing engine parts for over 40 years.

If we don't have it or if me can't locate your engine parts we will make them.

PARTS: Pistons, piston rings, gaskets, head and manifold gaskets made to order, connecting rod, main, cam shaft bearings, bushings, valves,valve seats valve springs,

MACHINE WORK: One of the countrys most complete engine machine shop, specializing in VINTAGE and OBSOLETE ENGINE PARTS RESTOREATION.

RE-BABBITTING: Rod bearings, Main bearings, cam shaft bearings, Bushings Re-Babbitted,

Cam shaft re-grinding, cam shaft lobe build up, cam followers re-ground,

Crank shaft re-grinding, crank shaft journals built up and ground,

In the frame crank shaft grinding, connecting rod journals.

Splines, gears, key ways re-paired,stainless steel welded, machine cut, and precision ground,


Cracked: head, block, exhaust manifold welding. Aluminum welding.We are experts in metal spraying the imposible weld re-pair projects.

Pistons metal sprayed over size and cam ground to original factory specs.

VALVES, valve seats made to order, valve springs, valve guides,

Plesae call with your needs toll free 1.800.233.6934 e-mail 1.509.999.2119 24/7 jbvintage@aol.com www.ramengine.com

Jack H. Bunton President CEO MBWA ASE Master Engine Consultant.

Vintage Engine Machine Works 604 N. Freya St. Spokane, Washington 99202

By Earl D9E (pppa8-resalebangor1-1r7313.dialinx.net - 4.48.234.37) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 01:48 am:


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ron g

01-01-2002 16:12:49




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
i found this, while on the web tEngine parts. Vintage/obsolete

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ANTIQUE CATERPILLAR MACHINERY OWNERS CLUB: BULLETIN BOARD: Engine parts. Vintage/obsolete ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --
By ramit (spider-ta071.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.205.76) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 07:57 pm:

Vintage Engine Machine Works: We have been supplying and re-manufacturing engine parts for over 40 years.

If we don't have it or if me can't locate your engine parts we will make them.

PARTS: Pistons, piston rings, gaskets, head and manifold gaskets made to order, connecting rod, main, cam shaft bearings, bushings, valves,valve seats valve springs,

MACHINE WORK: One of the countrys most complete engine machine shop, specializing in VINTAGE and OBSOLETE ENGINE PARTS RESTOREATION.

RE-BABBITTING: Rod bearings, Main bearings, cam shaft bearings, Bushings Re-Babbitted,

Cam shaft re-grinding, cam shaft lobe build up, cam followers re-ground,

Crank shaft re-grinding, crank shaft journals built up and ground,

In the frame crank shaft grinding, connecting rod journals.

Splines, gears, key ways re-paired,stainless steel welded, machine cut, and precision ground,


Cracked: head, block, exhaust manifold welding. Aluminum welding.We are experts in metal spraying the imposible weld re-pair projects.

Pistons metal sprayed over size and cam ground to original factory specs.

VALVES, valve seats made to order, valve springs, valve guides,

Plesae call with your needs toll free 1.800.233.6934 e-mail 1.509.999.2119 24/7 jbvintage@aol.com www.ramengine.com

Jack H. Bunton President CEO MBWA ASE Master Engine Consultant.

Vintage Engine Machine Works 604 N. Freya St. Spokane, Washington 99202

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John F.

12-31-2001 16:50:48




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
Larry,

Have you looked around at engine shows and auctions? You may be able to find a larger piston from an old engine or tractor. If it's thick enough a machine shop may be able to turn it to a smaller diameter.
Have you tried Hit & Miss enterprises? They have all kinds of old engine parts. Maybe they have something that could be sized or adapted to work.



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Oversized..???

12-30-2001 04:40:20




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  

OK over sized..should be able to find..but cast iron pistons ??.. been rebuilting engines for almost 40 yrs and never seen cast iron pistons ??. I guess good luck in your search. all i know how to find is over sized alum. pistons.!!!



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12-29-2001 20:45:27




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
over size a cast iron piston ? that one went over my head



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John Ne.

12-29-2001 13:57:11




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
There are any number of restoration shops, and machine shops that are capable. Check enginads.com,, and surf through the antique automobile sites. Go to your nearest machine shop, and start asking questions, and automotive machine shops too, they're in the yellow pages. Even in Maryland, don't expect this custom service within 50 miles of you. John in Ne.



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N.A.P.A.

12-28-2001 03:27:46




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 Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry from Maryland, 12-27-2001 14:27:02  
Tried local NAPA auto parts stores? They did some 4 me 15 years ago. Yellow pages under machine shop services. r.



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Larry

12-28-2001 08:58:07




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 Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to N.A.P.A., 12-28-2001 03:27:46  
None of the NAPA places around here have shops.Haven't found anyone in the phone book that does it either.



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Chicken George

12-30-2001 05:13:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry , 12-28-2001 08:58:07  
Larry, Are you talking about "KNURLING the piston skirt like we did in the model "T" days? if so I don't know of anyone that does that anymore, BUT you might look at the auto restoration people maybe "HEMMING" motor news, Just a thought



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Larry

12-30-2001 14:27:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Chicken George, 12-30-2001 05:13:38  
I am talking about spray welding the piston to make it larger then grinding down to fit the cylinder.There are no replacement pistons for this engine ,new or used and so far have not found anyone who can make one.It features a dam around the outer edge of the piston.Shops that spray weld heads can do the welding and I can try the grinding myself.The shop that I know of has no experince working on pistons and sometimes a head will come out deformed so much it can't be used.I have found a place in CA.that does it but thats along way to mail a part.With all the industry in MD,PA,NJ I would think a shop closer could do it.

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Nolan

01-17-2002 11:56:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry, 12-30-2001 14:27:57  
Contact Kerry at the Baltimore Knife and Sword Company. If you're familiar with the Baltimore area, he's located in the basement of Oella Mills over in Ellicot City.

He's very familiar with what you're talking about. He and I were just talking about this exact job. He's got a friend who does this for vintage Harley's and Indians, building back up the jugs and turning them down.



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C.George

12-30-2001 15:09:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry, 12-30-2001 14:27:57  
Larry, ok, now I understand,Da,old and slow, what is this piston for? There are places that cater to antique auto restorations, that do make ANYTHING, BUT it is costly. Larry, it comes to mind that alu. pistons are "cam" ground,(oval and tapered) ain't so shure on cast Iron, it might be cheaper in the long run to have new pistons made,possibly cast in aluminum. OR go the other way and bore and SLEAVE back to the size of the piston + ware.Now you got my interest a goin', keep us posted and I'll try to help if I can, Geo.

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Larry

12-31-2001 09:25:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to C.George, 12-30-2001 15:09:31  
Its a single cylinder 2cycle marine engine 1906.The water jacket is very thin and the intake and exahast ports would be very hard to match a sleeve to,there are six holes plus oiler and compression release.The air dam ontop of the cylinder has made it impossible to make one from AL.I have conversed with guys that make them for old 4 cycles.I have been told that guys who do this advertise in GEM magazine ,but I don't have one.

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C. George

12-31-2001 15:13:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Piston enlargeing in reply to Larry, 12-31-2001 09:25:52  
Larry, Ok, I get the picture,Amazon Queen,Ha ! that old and slow the piston proabaly is NOT cam ground, just symetrical. Well it sounds like it may have to go to the west coast, yet I have to believe it all started in the EAST coast and like you said gotta be somebody close to home and when you find him you will laugh at yourself for not knowing sooner. Larry just a wild shot, you sound knoledgeable about machining,there is a group of "Gearheads" on the "home machinist board" that get pretty tecky. give em a try,The Best of luck and Happy New year: Link: Link

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