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CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL

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RUSS DOUCET

03-30-2004 16:03:38




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RIGHT SIDE BATTERY WONT STAY CHARGED,SYSTEM HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM GENERATOR TO ALT ANY ADVISE WOULD BE HELPFUL NEW BATTERYS WERE INSTALLED CABLES ARE GOOD CLEAN AND TIGHT FAN BELT IS ALSO TIGHT




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txblu

04-01-2004 09:37:52




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 Re: CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL in reply to RUSS DOUCET, 03-30-2004 16:03:38  
I agree with JMS. I installed new batteries and for grins measued each's voltage with the engine running. I found one charged higher than the other. Since they are in series, the regl doesn't have a clue which is doing what so if you don't balance the outflow you won't be able to replace it with inflow so one will stay weak.

As far as 24, I'll take it. I relocated my batter box to the frame below the starter and replaced my wires with 00 with none longer than 15". With 2 new 900 amp size 31 truck batteries, that sucker screams and cold weather, (no glow plug, no ether) kicks off in about 3 - 5 sec.

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JMS/MN

03-30-2004 19:29:59




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 Re: CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL in reply to RUSS DOUCET, 03-30-2004 16:03:38  
If you still have the original JD 24 volt start/12 volt accessory system, you need to balance the load between the two batteries. Best bet is to switch over to the 12 volt system- lot fewer problems.



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RUSS DOUCET

04-04-2004 16:56:31




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 Re: Re: CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL in reply to JMS/MN, 03-30-2004 19:29:59  
WE FOUND A LOOSE WIRE ON THE SELONIED THE BATTERIES STAYED CHARGED FORM LAST WEEK TOOK YOUR ADVISE AND SWITHCHED THE LEFT AND RIGHT BATTERIES THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP



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Bob

03-30-2004 20:56:12




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 Re: Re: CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL in reply to JMS/MN, 03-30-2004 19:29:59  
I used to think that, too, but the 12 Volt changeover certainly requires GOOD batteries, and good, heavy gauge cables, to crank as well as the 24 Volt system, and is not 100% trouble-free, either. Fuel gauge and sender replacement may be necessary for proper operation, due to the reversed polarity. I have a 4020 I was always going to change over to 12 Volts, but after doing a few conversions for others, I left it alone. I have had the old girl since 1982, with no electrical problems. It's hard to beat that, and it starts good in cold weather.

However, if used in an application with a lot of current draw at 12 Volts, such as a cyclone seeder, or other motor load, there can be advantages to the 12 Volt conversion.

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Bob

03-30-2004 16:29:24




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 Re: CHARGING SYSTEM 4010 DIESEL in reply to RUSS DOUCET, 03-30-2004 16:03:38  
Have you tried switching the batteries from side to side to see if the problem moves with them (bad new battery)? If both batteries are good, another possibility is moisture and dirt in the starter solenoid, or moisture, dirt and brush carbon in the starter. The solenoid only disconnects the starter from one battery, so the innards remain connected at all times to the other battery, and crud in the starter will definitely drain one of the batteries. I will not speculate on which one, as so many of these tractors have been jerry-rigged from the original wiring configuration.

Other possibilites...

-Crud or debris in light switch or key switch bleeding off power.

-Fuel gauge hooked up wrong so it's always on.

-Battery cable or other wire with bad insulation running through moist crud or debris under the platform, or elsewhere.

-Bad alternator diode and/or winding shorted to case. (Try unhooking all wires from alternator and taping the up safely, to rule out drain through alternator.)

To troubleshoot, with tractor and all loads (lights, etc,) OFF, try unhooking a cable from the battery that goes dead, and hook a low wattage test light in series, between the cable and the battery post it was removed from. If there is a steady current drain, the test light should, at the very least, glow dimly. Unhook components one at a time until the light fully goes out. In this manner you should be able to isolate the source of your electrical "leak".

If you get this figured out, post back. It will be interesting to see what you find.

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