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Old rusty implement nuts and bolts

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screaminghollow

02-06-2002 00:56:59




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I would like to resurrect an old disc found in the bushes on my farm. The disc axles have a threaded end with a square nut. The thread appears to be about 3/4 by 8. I'm leery that this may be an odd ball thread and I may not be able to replace the nut, if I mess things up. Any suggestions for prep work prior to trying to remove the nut. soak it with kerosene?, liquid wrench?, naval jelly? (to remove rust from the exposed threads) heat?

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buck

02-07-2002 13:53:04




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  

a lot of good ideas here so far but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is use of an impcact wrench ( air or electric) but I don't know where you going to get a 4 point socket but a 12 point may work. If i'm not concerned about saving the nut I usually use the splitting the nut with a chissel trick but I use a small air hammer to do it. The vribation of the hammer gets attention quick.



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John Garner

02-07-2002 13:20:22




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
screaminghollow --

Your idea to remove the rust from the portion of the axle sticking out from the nut is dead on.

Wire-brush the old paint and rust away -- you don't need to get to "white metal", but you don't want anything filling the thread grooves. Then inspect the exposed thread carefully. A "thread restoring file", a triangular needle file, or even a XX-taper saw file will let you remove any burrs at the thread crests. You may not be able to get to the areas right at the nuts with the wire brush and file, but do what you can to clean those threads with a "dental pick" or scriber.

If the corners of the nut are rounded and burred, file off any burrs.

Now you can soak the area with penetrating oil. A lot of people swear by heating the nut with a torch and feeding wax into the shaft-to-nut juncture.

If the nut turns off easily, great! But if it doesn't, don't just force it willy-nilly. Be sure you have a wrench that fits the nut. A socket is better than an open-end or Crescent-type adjustable wrench. If you do end up using an adjustable wrench, screw the jaw down so that it clamps the nut tightly.

Finally, it sometimes helps if you tighten the nut just a touch first, apply some lube oil or more penetrating oil, and then unscrew it.

Good luck.

John

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Don Young

02-06-2002 21:04:45




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
In addition to all the other suggestions: If you can get a good heavy piece of steel under the nut, take a heavy hammer and, as my dad used to say "Hit it like you mean it!". If you hit the nut really hard on as many sides as possible, it will definitely stretch the nut and loosen it. This also works on old threaded iron pipe fittings.



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hay

02-06-2002 10:45:08




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
i have had good luck loosening old rusty bolts and nuts by soaking them in pure undiluted antifreeze.



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Ninh Hoa

02-06-2002 07:43:57




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
3/4-8 would be an oddball size. 3/4-10 would be standard. So would 1-8. Any chance it's sat long enough to have the end of the axle rust down so you think it's 3/4 instead of 1 inch?



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Hunter

02-06-2002 06:18:42




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
Pretty much just what Bill said, also I found a trick to loosen rusted nuts. Get a good chisel and give the nut a couple a good whacks on the flat part of the nut,not the end, just in 3 0r 4 places it usally works for me. Hunter



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RobertTX

02-06-2002 06:17:33




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
Try these guys for square nut, bolts, and other fasteners.

www.fastenal.com



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BillD

02-06-2002 06:02:33




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 Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to screaminghollow, 02-06-2002 00:56:59  
Not to be a smart alec but probably a combination of all of the above. PB blaster is also a good penetrant. Be careful when heating after soaking! Some of the penetrants can produce harmful gases when heated.



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ed

02-12-2002 04:56:09




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 Re: Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to BillD, 02-06-2002 06:02:33  
For PB Balster go to miller tire, look under tire supplies



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Brian

02-27-2002 20:00:45




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 Re: Re: Re: old rusty implement nuts and bolts in reply to ed, 02-12-2002 04:56:09  
Your local farm & fleet type store should be able to hook you up as well.



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