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American Engine Co.

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Bill Brox

07-01-2007 13:33:24




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Hello there.

I am interested in some info about American Engine Co. I saw an engine some days ago, saying American Engine Co. Detroit, Mich. It is a single cylinder, very old engine. I have tried to search one the net, but does not find any info about that engine.
Can anyone help me please ?

Best regards, Bill Brox




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Graeme and Lin Wardlaw

10-11-2007 20:19:42




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-01-2007 13:33:24  
Bill. In the book "American Gasoline Engines" there is a print of a 1914 add that gives an idea of what it looks like. I am unable to scan and send a copy to you. Sorry. It is 2 stroke and very similar to many of its day. An extremely rear engine to say the least. A while back, in Aust a guy bought an old single marine engine at a garage sale for $10, the bidding started on ebay at $50 and he thought a quick buck. I liked the look of the old siezed and cracked engine (although complete) Towards the end the price hit $800..I wanted it so at the last miute put $1800...I ended up beaten by over $1000 dollars and it went to England ($2830 was the price). This is such an engine. Good luck and cheers Graeme

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noncompos

07-03-2007 13:16:20




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-01-2007 13:33:24  
Bill: Sent two emails today; if they don"t come thru post here. Many thxx!! Bud



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noncompos

07-02-2007 11:56:10




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-01-2007 13:33:24  
Bill, Bill, Bill...c'mon, it's not all that impossible; use the old noggin a little here...A: they're on a list of traction engine m'f'r's...B: they're listed as marine eng builders 1892, 2cyl, 2-30 HP, Detroit, MI...C: Wayne L on Smokstak 9-9-03 actually has one, and sez there's a pic of it on pg 24 of American Gasoline Engines (Wikipedia says none known to exist, so they're apparently RARE)...D: you'll have to be careful not to confuse wih the American Engine Co, FH Ball, Gen Mgr, Bound Brook, NJ, and probably Jersey City, NJ, which built American stream engines, sometimes called American Ball engines (the 100HP in London is almost certainly American Ball) AND there's almost certainly other "American Engine Co"s out there, it's such a common name...SO: 1: post to marine engine etc sites and every antique engine site you can find; 2: get a copy of American Gasoline Engines, and Wendels Ency, the one with the 900 names (check your library) to see what they say; 3: contact Wayne, see what he's found; 4: rummage around in Detroit M'f'r's histories for American Engine Co, and Detroit library research service, etc etc etc...you're just getting started, it's all there somewhere... OH: "here in Norway: Norway MI?...IA?...MI?...or Norway, like in Scandinavia?"

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Graeme Wardlaw

10-11-2007 19:54:21




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to noncompos, 07-02-2007 11:56:10  
Well dang me, I was so disgusted with the reply that I did not read on but had to have my say. If I had , I would have seen an appology was given, now its my turn to do so. BUT this type of behavior with someone starting out can certanly dampen the spirit, no matter where they are, most of us start out very ignorant, but boy, what a learning curve. He who said "you are never to old to learn" must have collected engine. Cheers and all the best to all concerned. OH and MY appollagies. Cheers Graeme

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Bill Brox

07-03-2007 00:26:45




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to noncompos, 07-02-2007 11:56:10  
Norway like in Scandinavia... not much about American Gasoline Engines over here. But ok, I am just not good at searching. Actually very bad at it. That's all.

Bill



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Graeme and Lin Wardlaw

10-11-2007 19:45:27




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-03-2007 00:26:45  
Hi Bill. Isnt it a pity we didnt all start this hobby together, or maybe some of the ones who started earlier had better memories. I am like you, just learning to find this stuff and even to use a computor. It took me 25 yrs to find a little hit miss engine, BUT, found another 130 since (in 18 mths) Dont be disscoraged, use any method you see fit. Most genuine engine men are only to happy to help..with out the sarcazm. Cheers Graeme

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noncompos

07-03-2007 11:37:20




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-03-2007 00:26:45  
Bill: Had no idea you were in another part of the world; please accept my apologies for being flip. Too many years spent in research narrows the mind.
What's remarkable is how a small US marine engine made it's way to Norway, although I assume it was some kind of auxiliary on a larger boat. (I know absolutely nothing about boats, or marine engines; in fact, the older I get, the more things I realise I know nothing about). (Let's see: boats go on ships, not the other way around...). I'll do a litttle digging around; maybe I can turn up something. Why don't you try getting thru to the Detroit public library reference service; the library should have old business directories that'l show when the company started and folded up, and maybe if some other engine builder took it over? I'll email if I find anything. Best wishes.

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Bill Brox

07-03-2007 12:19:08




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to noncompos, 07-03-2007 11:37:20  
Hi there,

Well, I can not imagine the engine being used as a auxillary engine on a bigger boat. I think it has been used as a main engine on a boat, probably a small boat, 18 feet or so. A lot of people here around used boats like that for fishing in those days. I live in northern part of Norway, at about 69 deg. north. So, it is pretty far north.

Thank you for your help. I had hoped some people had taken care of those engines so I could see a picture of one. And print out for the man who owns this engine.

Well, see you later.


Bill

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noncompos

07-01-2007 22:35:16




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-01-2007 13:33:24  
Go to Google, Advanced Search,American Engine Co., and a number of other posts, on various sites, come up, referring to these engines, some apparently early marine engines. Wikipedia also lists them, I think, under makers of early traction engines. Good luck.



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Bill Brox

07-02-2007 01:50:26




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to noncompos, 07-01-2007 22:35:16  
Hi, thanks. Well, I can not really find any useful information. Just mentioning of a company with that name, and one place that they made engines from 2 to 30 horsepower.

So, I guess they are all gone. A man here in Norway has such an engine, but the cylinder is cracked, and some parts missing and who knows how it was supposed to look like.

Thanks anyway.

Bill



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Larry from md

07-05-2007 16:26:43




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Bill Brox, 07-02-2007 01:50:26  
Go to www.oldmarineengine.com and post there on the disscussion boards. There were lots and lots of small marine engine makers.



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noncompos

07-05-2007 20:52:05




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 Re: American Engine Co. in reply to Larry from md, 07-05-2007 16:26:43  
Larry: Thxx for suggestion; site does have much info on the group of marine engine m"f"r"s that seemed to include American (Detroit, Columbia, Caille, etc, the Middleditch/Scherer/Wadsworth companies) and Bill has advised he will be digging in their archives. So far it"s like my hunting deer; I hit all around it but never just right!! Incidentally, he"s somewhere up around Tromso, inside the arctic circle, and he said it was 80 F!! (Normal is 60"s; Gulf Stream branch).

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