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Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget

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Greg

02-12-2002 09:17:32




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I recently aquired an old Wisconsin Model TJD two cylinder engine. Seems to run real nice. I have it for sale, but no takers. There seems to be lots of expertise on this board concerning these engines. I know Wisconsin went broke, so parts are a concern to me. I will leave it up to the experts...should I sell it for whatever I can get,should I paint and detail it for show and tinkering at old engine shows, or should I just junk it and go on with my life. I bought this unit for the Quincy compressor that it powered. I don't have a fortune in it. What do you think? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks...Greg

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bob

07-28-2002 19:52:15




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 Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Greg, 02-12-2002 09:17:32  
I might consider purchasing the wisconsin tjd engine. Where are you located and how much are you asking?
Bob



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Redrev

02-15-2002 17:59:42




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 Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Greg, 02-12-2002 09:17:32  
Anyone know the worth of a 2 cyl Locomobile steam engine? E me if you do. I'll be away a couple days, but I'll get the email when I get home. Thanks. George



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Zira

02-12-2002 14:46:56




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 Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Greg, 02-12-2002 09:17:32  
Much as I hate to say it, your best bet is to sell it as-is or part it out.

Have you tried selling it on ASECC.com? Lil' Engine Ads (http://www.enginads.com/lilengin.cgi?index)? Yahoo! Wisconsin Club? And (it really pains me to type write this about a Wisconsin) e-bay?



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Greg

02-14-2002 08:39:39




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Zira, 02-12-2002 14:46:56  
Thanks for your input. My question is this: why do you recommend essentially trashing this engine? Is there some inherent problem with this model? Is is merely "uncollectable"? The local Wisconsin dealer here in Phoenix, says that he can get parts, slowly, due to Wisconsin's financial woes and new owner. I talked to a company in Arkansas, MPG, that has all the various doodads I need to redo this engine. Since it runs okay, doesn't seem to smoke or blow oil and the engine sounds good, why should I forget about fixing/restoring this engine and having some fun with it? All the tin is there and in good shape. All it really needs that I can readily see without taking the engine apart is a fuel pump. Your further input would be welcomed. Thanks for your time and input..... Greg

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Zira

02-14-2002 19:19:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Greg, 02-14-2002 08:39:39  
Well, I collect them so I wouldn't call them uncollectable. There was an article in Gas Engine Magazine about Wisconsins last month too. Your initial post sounded like a financial question, and financially your best bet is to part it out (since you haven't been able to sell it as-is). But by all means, keep it & fix it if necessary, having fun with this stuff is why we all do it (or at least most of us). On parts, try www.montanawisconsin.com or Gary Stewart at scottsupply@adelphia.net, I have found both of these to be very helpful & knowledgeable.

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Greg

02-15-2002 07:43:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Zira, 02-14-2002 19:19:41  
Thanks for your comments, Zira. As you can probably guess by my email address, I restore cars,specializing in Buick. This will be my first adventure in stationary engines. I used these old two lungers on the farm when I was a kid and had a NH model 77 baler with a VF4D on it. I found these engines to be reliable, but expensive to fix, and tempermental to start if you killed them hot. An old guy in the community where I grew up in Missouri told me a secret on the hot start problem inherent in the V-4 Wisconsins, and presumably would work in all Wisconsins. He milled the head(s) to gain a little more compression. His theory was that the valve clearance specs on these engines were too tight and caused a loss of compression when hot. So he would take .020 or so off the heads and open the clearances on the valves a couple thousanths or so and it took care of the problem on the VF4D on my baler. I wouldn't own one without electric start, either. I think I will just keep this one and fix it up and paint it and maybe do some chrome plating of accessories and them find a VF4D and a one cylinder, take them to the old engine shows and do some advertising for my business, and of course, have some fun fixing up part of the past like I do with cars. Thanks for your input, and if you have any other ideas for fixing up and displaying this old TJD, please let me know. BTW...would I be considered odd if I painted this engine some color other than gray, whick I believe to be Wisconsin engine color? This one appears to have been red originally, as I have found no gray paint when I stripped a small area on the block. So if I painted this one red with some chrome accents, would you laugh at me at an engine show??!! All the best..... ..Greg

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Zira

02-15-2002 14:25:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Greg, 02-15-2002 07:43:53  
I wouldn't laugh, but I might take a picture. I have ~15 Wisconsins (some dead); only 2 were grey. I do like to see them doing something, maybe hook one up to a hydrualic pump & use it to (slowly) raise & lower the Buicks so we can see all the neat stuff underneath.

Just a thought.



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Will

02-18-2002 10:03:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Zira, 02-15-2002 14:25:20  
By all means fix it if at all possible. Since it is your engine you are free to paint it any color you want. As you know Wisconsins were painted to match whatever brand of machine they were on. I wouldn't be too concerned with the engine purists and their opinion of what is historically correct. Those types will criticize no matter what you do so screwum and have some fun.



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Dianna

09-01-2005 23:26:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Se in reply to Will, 02-18-2002 10:03:59  
Can anybody help me find a governor for a vh4d Wisconsin 4 cylinder that has a top mounted distributor? It's in a 630 Bobcat. Thanks



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Will

02-12-2002 19:17:46




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin Engine....Sell, Fix, or Forget in reply to Zira, 02-12-2002 14:46:56  
Where are you located and how much do you want for it?



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