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Bruce

04-28-2002 15:41:04




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I've found an old stationary engine that says "Nelson Brothers" "Little Jumbo" "#1499"
on the tag. It is fired by a Wico type EK magneto.

It appears in great shape and I think all parts are there.

OK..... .where do I start? Do I clean it up or leave it original. Where do I begin to get it running?

All open ended questions I admit. But you guys know a LOT more about this than I do. I'm just a tractor puller!

Thanks

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Baggsy-Wy

04-29-2002 06:18:36




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 Re: Nelson Brothers engines in reply to Bruce, 04-28-2002 15:41:04  
Bruce, nice engine, those old Nelson Bros. I've got a 1920's Sattley that was made by Nelson Bros. It's been just a great old engine. Easy starter and simple to work on. You'll like it!

Myself, I like to leave 'em original if there's much of the old paint left on 'em. If it's a rust bucket, then I'd paint it. A good friend of mine told me when I was thinking about painting an old Case tractor "You can paint it a thousand times, but it's only original once..." I think they just look better in their work clothes. But it's your engine and you can paint it zebra striped if you want to.

To get her ready to start, I'd start with checking the spark. Pull you plug and lay it up on the head to ground it out. Give her a couple spins. Check for a healthy spark. If your mags weak, check back and we'll diagnose it. Once you got spark, then I'd move on to the governor. Check that the governor weights are moving free and not binding. As they pull out, they'll engage an arm with a detent blade on it that grabs a pick blade to make it do the "miss". If it doesn't engage clean (rounded corners on the pick or detent blade), you'll need to clean up the blade in question. Adjust it so there's about 1/32 inch clearance between them at the longest part of your stroke. The reason for doing all this is that if it starts and the governor doesn't engage, it'll run WILD at full rpm until you get it shut down. And they jump along pretty well and move at a fair rate of speed when they do. Damn dangerous. My dogs still won't stay in the garage when I start mine be 'cause of the first time I tryed it.

Once the governor looks good, then test the check valve on the end of the gas line. You should be able to blow thru it up towards the engine, but not backwards. This is what keeps it primed and keeps the gas from draining back down to the tank. Fill the grease cups with grease and crank 'em down a little. Fill the oiler up and adjust it to get about 1 drop every 6 seconds. Squirt a little oil on all the moving parts you can see. Get that done and you're ready to fill her with some gas and fill the hopper 3/4's full of water. There might be a freeze plug that needs work if she won't hold water. But you can run it for a few minutes without the water. Advance the Magneto (lever arm up), open the needle valve about a quarter turn, close the choke plate down, and give her a spin or two. If she floods (gas coming past the piston into the crank case), open the choke, close the needle valve and depress the intake valve. Spin it over a couple times to clear the cylinder. Once she fires, retarted the mag (swing arm down), and adjust the needle valve to where your smoke is clear. As she warms up, open the choke a little at time. Post back with any problems and we'll go from there...

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Bruce

04-29-2002 17:49:06




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 Re: Re: Nelson Brothers engines in reply to Baggsy-Wy, 04-29-2002 06:18:36  
Fantastic and thank you kindly.

One question before I run to the barn.....The magneto advance/retard on this one wants to move front to back. Um, front being the head. Is there a way to tell which action creates an advance condition?

Thank you again, I will never forget your kind words.



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Baggsy

04-30-2002 05:47:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Nelson Brothers engines in reply to Bruce, 04-29-2002 17:49:06  
To start, you want the setting that does NOT engage the little arm into the exhaust linkage, this shortening it a bit. She'll start either way, but the chance of kickback is greater with it engaged. As soon as she gets going, put it where it's part of the system. It's gonna be quite a moment when it finally takes off, so you better go to town first and get a hat a couple sizes too big. And prepare to wear a he11uva grin for a couple weeks...

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Bruce

04-30-2002 16:29:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Nelson Brothers engines in reply to Baggsy, 04-30-2002 05:47:37  
Check.



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