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1st time welder

what a wonderful feeling!!!!

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Jim M (RI)

07-04-2002 12:29:11




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My wife got me a MIG welder for Christmas and I have been reading everything I can about welding but guess I have been hesitant to try for fear of screwing something up. Yesterday I went to change the coach batteries in my camper and the platform they set on was almost rusted away. Well, a trip to Home Depot for some angle iron, and a little planning last night and I was ready. Got up this morning at 5:30 determined I was going to make a new box for those batteries. Well by 10:00 this morning it was ready to mount. The first few passes were a little rough, but after I realized I was in too much of a hurry and slowed down a little, the beads got better. It wouldn't win any prizes, but I'm on my way! What a great feeling and a great day to be able to be in America and down in my shop working on those old tractors and engines. Thanks to all for all the info I have read that made the job ealier. Happy Fourth of July, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Jim

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Trucker

07-14-2002 16:15:59




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 Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to Jim M (RI), 07-04-2002 12:29:11  
Its real good that you did that.You say your welds dont look good.It takes a lot of practice,and its mandatory that you take them to a vise and break them to see what it takes to make a good weld.After reading about the trailer that came apart,it makes me think about what all a person could do wrong with a mig.I think the important thing is at first to make sure they are strong welds you are making.Really what somebody else thinks they look like doesnt matter if you know your welds are strong.Anybody that is just starting to weld should go ask somebody thats a welder what he thinks of the welds they are making,that way you can maybe avoid something hurting you or somebody else.A course isnt a bad idea either,but it still takes practice,and a lot of other things you need to know as well.Even if you take a course it doesnt guarantee that you can weld something that will stay together,but it will tell you some mistakes you can make you dont know about.Sometimes a mig is not the best thing to weld something with,especially a trailer hitch.Depending on the thickness of the metal,what kind of metal,how powerfull your mig is,and lots of other things,you may not want to weld it yourself,especially if you are going to take it down the road.

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RobertTX

07-05-2002 06:02:39




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 Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to Jim M (RI), 07-04-2002 12:29:11  
Congratulations on your project, it's a great feeling. The course the guys recommended is a good idea, but for a quick primer, good old destructive testing can be informative and relaxing. Take some scrap and do some sample welds. Take these pieces to the vise, select your favorite hammer, and beat the #*^& out of the welds and pieces around the weld. Do everything you can to cause the weld to fail- bend, mutilate, and warp. This will give you a first hand look at weld mechanics and indicate areas of technique that need practice. I do this every now and then as a check, or when I am going to work with something that is new to me.

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wet blanket

07-04-2002 22:39:35




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 Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to Jim M (RI), 07-04-2002 12:29:11  
congradulations Jim!!!welding is a rush & you get a great feeling of accomplishment...now,i don't mean to be a wet blanket,but,get some instruction"please"...i spent a weekend last month helping a buddy get his"restored"tractor home...he built a trailer with his new MIG(first trailer & first MIG),looked really good but it came apart at 60mph dumping his 2N & destroying her(was coming home from paint shop)...i remember him telling me"not gonna make anything important with it.it's just a new toy"...welds looked so good he got brave & went in deep...coulda killed somebody along with tractor,but he was lucky.....

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T_Bone

07-05-2002 01:44:21




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 Re: Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to wet blanket, 07-04-2002 22:39:35  
Hi Jim,

Theres some good words of wisdom in wet blanket post.
To many new welders get over confident with Mig welders as it's fairly easy to make a good looking weld right off the start with very poor penetration.

Mig is one of the easyest welding methods to get cold lap. Cold lap is where the weld puddle penetrates one side of the base metal and not the other side. Welding angle iron is where cold lap will show up the most as looking at the weld it would seam penetration was equal on both legs of the angle iron when really it's only penetrated one side. Another place cold lap occurs alot with Mig is when you stop and restart a weld.

It would be to your benefit to take a Voc-Tech welding course, about $100, as it will greatly speed up your learning curve. You then can go home and practice with your machine. Most Voc-Tech schools have top of the line welding eqipment so you will be able to tell if your equipment at home is adaquote or if there is a problem. You will also enjoy welding and your home projects more if they always turn out good. Something else that will happen with learning at home, you will pick up some very bad welding habbits that will be very hard to break after you enter a school thus it will slow your learning down.

Congrats on getting started tho!!!

T_Bone

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hay

07-04-2002 14:56:27




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 Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to Jim M (RI), 07-04-2002 12:29:11  
welding is such a rush! search out for a steel supplier or a large scrapyard in your area. the cost of what steel you need will be considerably less than the big home improvement stores. if you are anything like me, you will find all kinds of things to weld and want to keep some items in your stock for projects and repairs. be safe!



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Frank M.

07-04-2002 14:51:42




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 Re: 1st time welder - what a wonderful feeling!!!! in reply to Jim M (RI), 07-04-2002 12:29:11  
Hey congratulations on your sucessful project. I,too, am a novice welder. I practiced a few times on scraps of metal before I got things to stick together. I got lots of advice from the fine folks that read this forum. My first, and only, project to date was a hanger for my air hose. An old car wheel for the base with a pipe upright and another wheel to hang the hose on. It'll never be a thing of beauty but it's solid,and it works. A coat of paint might make it look better though.
Have fun with it and keep practicing.
Catch ya' later Frank M.

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