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John in Md.

12-15-2002 09:38:30

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Are 100 amp arc welders much use,or are they just for sheet metal.Does anybody make a reliable unit?Are any better than others and why?
Christmas is coming and I need a gift for the wife.Thanks in advance,John.

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Ron in NY

12-22-2002 16:10:13

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

I have a century 100 amp, works well around the house and is very portable. I grew up with a lincoln buzz box 225 amp which is clearly a superior way to go. If your not wired for 220 and you want portable these small welders work just fine. I have used about 20 lbs of rod on more projects than I can count: trailer, brushhog, lawn tractor, made fire wood racks.
Use 100 ft #12 cord (dont want to melt little ones) When I want to upgrade I will be able to sell this to the many people I did small weld jobs for easy, number of requests.

You get what you pay for, but perhaps I have gotten alittle more out of this deal

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SteveB

12-17-2002 04:54:34

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

If your thinking about one of those Harbor Freight deals, Don't do it. I made the mistake a couple of years ago and bought a 110 century stick, After recieving it 3 months after Christmas it arrived broken. It was so bent up, and the controls were missing. Back it went for a replacement. A month later I recieved my new one.
I installed a plug end " they don't come with a plug" I plugged her in for a test run. I tried a 6013 1/8" rod, could not maintain an ARC. Tried Max Amp setting with smaller rods, still no good.
The amount of time you will waste trying to get this thing to work, isnt worth it. It won't work, you will waste 100.00. I havent touched the thing since. I bought a Miller 175 because I was so ticked off. This has served me well. I also have a Lincoln buzz box that I use all the time. At 250.00 you cannot go wrong.
Sorry about that, Just wanted to vent.
Anyone interested in a 110 Stick welder CHEAP???

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Cole Clark

10-03-2005 16:15:11

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Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to SteveB, 12-17-2002 04:54:34

Yes i am interested how much are you selling it for

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John in MA

12-18-2002 22:16:56

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Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to SteveB, 12-17-2002 04:54:34

What's "cheap" mean? I might be interested.

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12-18-2002 13:41:13

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Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to SteveB, 12-17-2002 04:54:34

The "Century" brand is not exclusive to Harbor Freight so perhaps you "vented" on the wrong entity. A "Harbor Freight deal" could also refer ta a special on originals like VISE-GRIP, LINCOLN or STANLEY, among others. H. Freight sold you what you ordered.

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JerryU

12-17-2002 04:08:25

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

Now for my two cents worth. I am not a welder nor have any inclination to build anything. I bought a little 100 amp box about 9 years ago to "stick piece A to piece B" (We live on 6 acres). I do not have the electrical capacity in my garage for much more. It has served me well for what I want to do. Unfortunately I don't remember the name of it, it was a mail order gizmo. On bigger jobs, I have gone to my in laws, who has a bona fide welder of several hundred amps. In my opinion, if you are like me and drag the welder out maybe 3 times a year to fix a crack or make a little hanger, the 100 amper works okay for the money. Any more you will want to go bigger to build stuff. But in my case I also need either a gas powered or a larger service to my garage.

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m j

12-16-2002 14:27:34

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

I'd like to share the following formula that I figured out when the last one left: Take your wifes' age in years, subtract her shoe size and add the number of days in the month in which you were married. OK....now multiply by by the number of credit cards she lets you use and divide by the number of times she's used your welder without permission, multiply by 63.6 and that product by the number of years you've been married (don't count previous, if any) and you will arrive at a figure that should be regarded as the MINIMUM amount that you should spend to keep her burning rod in the manner to which you've become accustomed. The application of this formula will guarantee many years of gratitude as ALL women, deep down in their heart of hearts, love to weld. Go for it brother!

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12-16-2002 09:49:57

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

The cheap ones are junk; they have an utterly useless duty cycle and deliver such a poor quality arc that they really don't do well on light sheet metal. There are however some more pricey units that will work on 110V or 220V. These units use an inverter type power source and deliver an unbelievable arc quality for a unit that weighs about 20 lbs. and is the size of a large lunch box. I sold a small gasoline powered Lincoln to buy my Thermodyne unit. It is great, no more hassles to set up and take down the machine; just plug her in and go. It is much quieter as well. Duty cycle is still low when the amprerage setting is maxxed out, but the working duty cycle goes up as the amperage goes down.
Lincoln and Miller offer similar machines.

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SteveB

12-16-2002 08:31:11

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

My Girlie got me a nice AIRCO torch set up and a ROPS for my dozer.

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BillWV

12-16-2002 04:51:44

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

I used a Fourney 110V-100 amp stick welder for a couple of years. It was OK for metal up to 3/16"; as the others say, just a lot of sitting around. If you need to, you can work around it. Layout one part and weld it; while the welder is cooling, layout the next. It wasn't the best but was all that I could afford. Not great for sheet metal, in my experience. Managed to build a tandem axle trailer that I still use and several other useful things. I made the leap to a Lincoln 220 volt AC only welder (about $225 at Lowes) when I built my Cadplans backhoe. It is lots better.

Bill

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Lincoln AC/DC

12-15-2002 15:51:55

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

Save up your money and get the Lincoln AC/DC

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hay

12-15-2002 10:29:22

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Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to John in Md. , 12-15-2002 09:38:30

don't waste your money and time on them things. they just ain't got enough power to really do anything of value. i made the mistake of getting one of them and then had to spend more to get a decent 225 amp, 220 volt miller and it does anything i need for around home and farm. as far as sheetmetal work, i think you would be better off with a wire machine because it will weld down as low as 24 gauge. look around and get a good name brand, not some chep junk that will quit on you in no time. be safe!

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Andy

12-15-2002 13:06:14

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Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to hay, 12-15-2002 10:29:22

Nothing says "Ilove you" like a welder for christmas.

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david

12-15-2002 15:36:13

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Re: Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to Andy, 12-15-2002 13:06:14

Mine got a pair of bird dogs year before last and a shotgun last year.

On the welder note, other post is exactly right. Forget a 110v/100 amp. ost of your welding will be at 90 amps and above. At that output (or throughput, can't remember which) with a 20% duty cycle you will only be welding 2 minutes out of 10, the other 8 will be waiting for the machine to cool off and reset. Made the same mistake with my 1st mig. It was a Century 100v, god machine, just too much sitting around.

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John in Md.

12-15-2002 13:50:18

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Re: Re: Re: 100 AMP STICK WELDERS in reply to Andy, 12-15-2002 13:06:14

My sentiments too.

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