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6011 vs 7018 rods ?

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Will

01-17-2003 14:37:05




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Have Lincoln AC buss box been using for 40 years for all kind of farm welding. Been using 6011 rods. See many you guys recomend 7018. Whats diff? Like to keep only one rod for all uses.




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TimC

01-20-2003 06:34:12




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
Every rod has its purpose. 6011s are great for dirty work. 7018 are higher in tensil strength and have more elongation meaning they retain their strength and will flex with out breaking compared to other rods. IMHO



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BillWV

01-17-2003 19:55:48




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
I'd used only 6013's until I tried 7018's at the advice of the engineer at Cadplans while I was builing my backhoe. They recommend 7018's when welding some of the high-carbon steel used in the backhoe, and also for the whole project. Once I found some sealed (dry) rods and learned that the Lincoln 7018AC rods are a "contact" rod, I did pretty well with them. Still haven't mastered vertical, but that's not the rods fault. The 7018's give a good looking bead that is easily de-slagged.
Bill

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moonlite

01-17-2003 18:40:20




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
Most part time welders have trouble maintaining proficency welding with more than one rod. I ran a welding shop employing 8-10 welders and used about 150-200 pounds of E 6011 per week. seldom used other rods. E 7018 is a bit stronger but my more inexperienced workers could do a better job with the E6011 which works easily in all positions. We could only get along with the E 7014 if the work was flat and clean.Since retirement Ikeep a 50 pound box of E 6011 1/8 and about 10 pounds E 6011 5/32

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Tom

01-17-2003 18:25:09




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
I have tried 7018, 6013, 6011 and others; but the best all around rod for my farm shop is by far the 7014. It is a medium penetration, 70,000 lb rod that has little spatter, beautiful beads, easy slag removal, easy arc start. I use it for almost everything: repairs, pipe-top fence, corner postbraces, etc. Try it, you will like it.



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Neil

01-18-2003 13:16:14




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 Re: Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Tom, 01-17-2003 18:25:09  
Been a long time since I've done any welding and I wasn't that good when I did. I found 7014 to be very easy to use and that it went a long way to compensating for my lack of ability.



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Dusty

01-18-2003 06:19:51




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 Re: Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Tom, 01-17-2003 18:25:09  
I like the 7014's.

Dusty



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kydavid

01-17-2003 16:26:18




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
7018's are great in a production (factory) or construction enviornment where you can keep them in an oven (dry and preheated). Really nice on clean (new) metal. They are not suited for the typical farm shop where 10 pounds may last 3 years in a metal can in an unheated shop. Also don't have the rust and paint cutting properties of the 6011. 7018's are also nice on DC but (at least for me) struggle on AC with them. If you doing farm repairs keep the 6011, if you are buildin stuff out of new steel try the 7018. To me the 7018 is more of an "improved" 6013 while the 6011 is for different types of work.

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john

01-17-2003 15:06:05




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 Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to Will, 01-17-2003 14:37:05  
Will,

both are good rods... 7018 has higher tensile strength... and is harder to start than 60xx. 7018 is a low hydrogen rod and likes the dry... at our plant 7018s stay in a rod oven to keep them dry...

once you get your arc started they weld great and welds look good...low spatter... they are the choice of most pipefitters for pipe work. the 6011 are a little more forgiving with dirty work I.M.O. but you won't be disappointed with the 70xx after you're used to the start characteristics...

hope it helps... I'm sure the real welders can give you a lot more info... I'm only a certified dauber... :-)

john

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Andy

01-21-2003 17:20:01




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 Re: Re: 6011 vs 7018 rods ? in reply to john, 01-17-2003 15:06:05  
7018 is a great rod. lots of tensile strength less internal tension when it cools and less shrinkage. this means what you weld will stay a bit straghter,(unless your into 3/8" single pass welds) be careful when you buy them there is a 7018 and a 7018 AC for AC welders. the regular 7018 is frustrating with an AC welder. I use them almost everything. If there is paint or rust where I need to weld, I take the time to grind it off. It may take a bit longer but it will look nicer, be stronger and your shop won't get as smokey.

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