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thunderhead

10-27-2003 11:07:09




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Hi folks.My 53 Jubilee surprised me with no clutch. It worked, I parked it for a couple of weeks then no clutch. I think I need a new clutch. I have changed a clutch in a car befor but looking at the service shop manual I see it says the "pilot bearing" needs to be pulled and replaced with a special tool for each. QUESTION... can this be done without those special tools or are they necessary? If it can be done without the special tools can you tell me how? Thank you; Thunderhead

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RWK in WI

10-29-2003 05:57:28




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 Re: special clutch tools in reply to thunderhead, 10-27-2003 11:07:09  
Before you tear into the tractor try to free the clutch. The last time it happened to me I was able to free it by putting strong tow strap between the tractor drawbar and my truck. Start the tractor in a fairly high gear ( 3rd on a Jubleem ) and with the clutch pedal held down have the truck keeping up with the tractor. Then have the truck hit the brakes on the truck. The sudden jerk will break the clutch loose. Be careful what ever you do.

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Richard Fazio

10-28-2003 11:37:41




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 Re: special clutch tools in reply to thunderhead, 10-27-2003 11:07:09  
Thunderhead, You can try many tricks as other have suggested, though I don't think I like bumping into trees. If you can't brake it free by driving around or jerking free here's another suggestion. Pull the starter, or if you have a lower cover plate over the bottom of the bell housing remove that. Depress the clutch pedal all the way and block it that way. Maybe even adjust out all clutch play and then block it down. Now with a light, mirror and small screw driver or putty knife pry the clutch disc away from the flywheel. Work your way around the flywheel turning the engine as you go.

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Dave S.

10-27-2003 16:19:29




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 Re: special clutch tools in reply to thunderhead, 10-27-2003 11:07:09  
Thunderhead, When you say it workled fine a couple weeks ago and now it doesn't, Is the clutch not engaging at all or will it not release? If it wont release then chances are the clutch disk is stuck to the flywheel due to condensation. If this is the case, Get it out in the open, Start it in a higher gear and hit the brakes a few times to jerk it loose, Make sure your holding the clutch pedal down while doing this.

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B W JOHNSON

10-27-2003 17:49:49




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 Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to Dave S., 10-27-2003 16:19:29  
You don't have a big problem the clutch is just stuck to the presure plate . start tractor in gear & use the brakes like the other guy said .If that dont work line the drawbar up with a tree start tractor in reverse hold clutch down when it bumps tree it should come lose, may need to try more than one time.



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Thunderhead

10-27-2003 17:17:16




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 Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to Dave S., 10-27-2003 16:19:29  
Hi thanks for the reply. The symptoms are...when the clutch pedel is pushed down you cannot shift into gear. The gear teeth can be felt and heard. Also, when in gear, the clutch being depressed dose not dissengage the tranny. Hope you can clue me in a little more from as little discription as this. Thank you for your time, thunderhead



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JOHN (LA)

10-27-2003 21:14:39




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 Re: Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to Thunderhead, 10-27-2003 17:17:16  
Sure sounds like the disc is stuck to flywheel since you had parked for a few weeks.
One last question would be does your pedal feel normal such as stiffness and free play? If so try the trick suggested. If your free play went from good one day to a lot next day then you have problems.



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TO35

10-27-2003 13:37:28




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 Re: special clutch tools in reply to thunderhead, 10-27-2003 11:07:09  
Thunderhead....you don't need any speical tools to do that job.....you can make a line up shaft out of a wooden dowel that fits snuggly in the pilot bearing to line up the clutch. To remove the pilot bearing just pack the hole full with wheel bearing grease and get a drift punch that fits snuggly in the hole and hit it with a hammer till the pilot bearing pushes out...thats all there is too it....
best wishes
TO

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Thunderhead

10-27-2003 17:07:07




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 Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to TO35, 10-27-2003 13:37:28  
Hi thanks for the reply. Do I assume that what you describe is done by removing the flywheel? The manual shows it being done with the flywheel on the engin. Also, when replacing the bearing the manual shows a "special tool" to pound the bearing into place. How do you do that? Thank you again. thunderhead



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TO35

10-29-2003 15:36:22




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 Re: Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to Thunderhead, 10-27-2003 17:07:07  
No you don't have to remove the flywheel to remove the bearing...and all you need to reinstall the bearing is like a socket with the same out side diameter as the bearing....just tap it lightly to start the knock it on in till it seats....

have a nice day...
best wishes
TO



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thunderhead

10-29-2003 19:56:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: special clutch tools in reply to TO35, 10-29-2003 15:36:22  
Thanks



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