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02-12-2004 13:31:18




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Any cheaper ways to building a pole building, for a shop, can do the labor myself. have built an addition on my house. will i save on lumber? Is there any wholsalers that have lumber, what about rafters< where do i get them, would it be cheaper to order from menards, needs to be 40 by 60 or 48 by 60




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Kent

02-13-2004 20:37:13




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 Re: pole building ideas in reply to 333, 02-12-2004 13:31:18  
My Dad had a 30x40 10'tall built last year by a local pole barn company. It had 2 sliders and 3 windows and 1 walk door. 6" of concrete at entrances and 4" in the rest of the floor except areas where we made anchor points to pull from for tying stuff down to straighten frames, etc. It was non insulated and the price didn't include electrical hook up, just the barn and concrete as we did the site prep work. It was $12000.00. Some companies will put Thermax (foil faced sheet insulation) between the girts and the metal but some think it takes away from the structural integrity due to the metal not being tight to the wood. Here in Southern Illinois we don't get much snow anymore so snow load isnt a problem but wind can be. Most here are putting pole spacing on 10' centers. I bought some ground and it has a 50 x 72 12" high and the poles are on 8' spacing which I like better. By all means put a vapor barrier on the roof, I prefer fan fold type and allow it to stick out close to the edge of metal so the condensation will drip in the gutter. Good Luck Kent

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kyhayman

02-12-2004 18:08:31




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 Re: pole building ideas in reply to 333, 02-12-2004 13:31:18  
I'm sending you some pics of one of the styles I've used. A lot of folks want to spend way too much money on a barn that wont last as long a 'real' pole barn. I got a 'crash course' in wind sheer and durabiltiy this past year with a 100 year ice event followed 6 mon later with 100 mph straight line wind.

Cedar posts set in the ground, mill run pine or yellow poplar, and 5 V metal does fine at a reasonable cost. While I only lost 1 building (and it was a 3 sided shed open to the east, where the wind came from).

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333

02-13-2004 06:27:57




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 Re: Re: pole building ideas in reply to kyhayman, 02-12-2004 18:08:31  
thanks for the pictures, how much on cost should A guy figure on a 48 by 60 or 40 by 60?



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Lamchops

02-12-2004 15:44:30




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 Re: pole building ideas in reply to 333, 02-12-2004 13:31:18  
Menards has a pretty good building that you can design with their in store computer or you can just meet with one of the guys at the contractors counter and they can help you. I just bought and installed a Menards pole building and am very happy with the end result but there's a couple of things you need to do before going to Menards. First is that you need to get a building permit. You need to consult with the building inspector to verify your local snow load requirements and also the pole spacing. Also you need to know the wind bracing requirements. You will probably need a plan which Menards can provide but I built my building higher then 11 feet to the rafters so I needed a stamped set of drawings from Menards which took almost 3 weeks to get so it held me up a bit. I built my building in the U.P. of Michigan so the rafters and poles needed to be much larger for the snow loads then the generic Menards cheeper buildings. So my # 1 advice is to get the building permit before you order the building. Menards will give you an instruction book so if you want you can put up the building yourself and the kit they provide has everything you need to install it. One more thing, there's is a whole lot of options you can get on these buildings but I strongly recommend getting 1 foot soffits with the vents in them. Other wise rain, and ice build up on the side of your building and without the ventalation you'll get condesation building up on the ceiling and dripping on everything. Good luck.

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333

02-13-2004 07:27:15




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 Re: Re: pole building ideas in reply to Lamchops, 02-12-2004 15:44:30  
How much did your building cost and what size, My dad had a couple mortons built, but are too expensive for me



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lambchops

02-13-2004 13:16:12




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 Re: Re: Re: pole building ideas in reply to 333, 02-13-2004 07:27:15  
The base building cost was I believe about $12,000. for a 45x64 building with a 12' lean-to. I added the taller ceiling hieght to 13', 3-10' high garage doors, the bigger posts and truss system for the snow load, extended the lean-to 6'more and several other things and got the price up to about $20,000. So my building is 64x63. I poured a 6" concrete floor inside and concrete aprons outside and it's a great building. Plenty of room for my tractors. I also added a separate 200 amp underground service for all of the welders and power tools. I installed 8-400 watt metal halide light fixtures so I have lots of light to work at night. It was more money then I planned but it came out better then I expected.

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