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SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ???

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kent

07-02-2004 18:36:14




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I SAW A DISCUSSION HERE A MONTH OR 2 AGO ABOUT SWENCHES--BEING A TOOL NUT, I FOUND AND BOUGHT ONE ON EBAY--I GOT IT TODAY---1" DRIVE, 1000 LB CAPY, BUT HOW DO I USE IT???--IT HAS THE 1" DRIVE ON BOTH SIDES, BUT NO DIRECTION WHICH WAY TO TURN---ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED---THANKS




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Wayne

07-03-2004 18:51:19




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 Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to kent, 07-02-2004 18:36:14  
Charles is right on with all the information on the Swench. When I got mine several years ago I got it in a boxed set with a 3/4 and 1" drive Swench along with both a set of both 3/4 and 1" drive sockets, extensions, offsets, etc. The same set from Curtis Wright was over $8000, and I got everything for $1000. We wound up with another 1" drive at an auction so now Dad and I both have one on our service trucks. We've both tightened and loosened bolts on equipment that our 1" IR impacts wouldn't touch. One customer was so impressed ...after Dad tightened a pair of bolts on their crusher with his and they couldn't get them back loose a month later... that
they just had to have one for theirself. On the 5/8 drive sockets In was told by an area tool guy that they were made mainly for "big industry" as a way of preventing theft of their tools. It was an odd size therefore nobody would have a ratchet, etc at home to fit the sockets...so they wouldn't be as likely to steal them. Good luck withyour new toy, but watch out because it will twist off a bolt in a heart beat if your not careful.

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Mike

07-03-2004 10:20:04




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 Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to kent, 07-02-2004 18:36:14  
Kent,

Okay, what is a "swench"?

Would you mind posting the link to the ebay page or item number so I can see what a "swench" looks like?

Maybe you could even post a picture here.

Thanks!



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kent

07-03-2004 10:39:10




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 Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to Mike, 07-03-2004 10:20:04  
hi mike---i was the same way 6 weeks ago about "what the heck is a swench??"--now i own one-look at ebay # 2483330959 for a current listing and 3821419433 for the one i bought---hope this helps
kent



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Mike

07-04-2004 13:16:51




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 Re: Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to kent, 07-03-2004 10:39:10  
Kent,

Thanks!



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Charles (in GA)

07-02-2004 19:59:09




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 Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to kent, 07-02-2004 18:36:14  
Funny, I have Ebay set up for auto emails when "swench" appears in a listing. I must have missed that one. I already have a 1" though.

Easiest way to tell which way to turn it is...

Chuck one of the square drives in a vise, attempt to turn it one way and then the other. One way you will feel that you are pulling againist a spring, that is always the direction you should pull the handle to apply impact or torque. Mark both sides of the head with arrows so that you know that is the direction to pull, always againist the spring.

The other way, all you get is the "click.. click.. click.." of the ratchet mechanism and little or no resistance.

Put a socket on it and find something to loosen, a tractor lugnut, etc. put the socket and ratchet on the nut, and pull in a CCW direction againist the spring (oops.. wrong side?? try again on the other side.. ah ha) anyhow, you pull againist the spring for about 30 degrees of rotation and suddenly the device inside trips a pawl and WHAM!!! If you have enough room to keep pulling, do so, if not, push the handle back the other way till the ratchet clicks, and then pull again.. WHAM!!

In the end of the handle is an allen screw head and a scale kinda like a torque wrench on the side of the handle. The numbers are generic, merely reference, they do not equate to a specific torque. You can vary the impact force by adjusting this.

The model number tells you the size of the square drive. a Model 500 is 1/2", a 750 is 3/4", and a 1000 is a 1" square drive. Oddly, there is a Swentch on Ebay right now, its a model 625, thats a 5/8" square drive!!! I've never seen a 5/8" drive socket, but oddly, I bought some 3/4 drive sockets not long back and included was a 5/8 female to 1/2 male square drive adapter. I deemed it useless and put it in the back corner of a tool box drawer.

Hope this helps. Its a very unique tool.

Charles

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DwightC

07-05-2004 16:10:47




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 Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to Charles (in GA), 07-02-2004 19:59:09  
I have a set of Snap-On 5/8 drive sockets, but the ratchet is broken. Would you be interested in selling your adaptor?



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Slowpoke

07-04-2004 01:23:54




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 Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to Charles (in GA), 07-02-2004 19:59:09  
Also made by Cornwell. I have one 5/8 drive, 1 1/16", 8 point socket. Someone marked it "Chrysler".



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Stick

07-03-2004 07:39:29




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 Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to Charles (in GA), 07-02-2004 19:59:09  
We have 2 sets of 5/8" drive sockets here at work. They're made by Armstrong, and the old timers here say they were left here after construction in the early 1960's.



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kent

07-03-2004 06:17:23




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 Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to Charles (in GA), 07-02-2004 19:59:09  
thanks charles--do you use a cheater pipe on it?



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Charles (in GA)

07-03-2004 18:03:09




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 Re: Re: Re: SWENCH---HOW DO YOU USE ??? in reply to kent, 07-03-2004 06:17:23  
NO cheater necessary. You are simply pulling againist a cam and spring. If it won't move one direction or both, its frozen up. It doesn't take that much effort to pull it. I would not pull it thru till it trips in the vise (might break something), but you can pull on it enough to feel the spring and the ratchet.

If the thing appears frozen, on your model 1000, remove the four bolts around the base of the handle and the cover will slip off to reveal some of the mechanism. Its safe, the spring is in the handle, nothing will go flying away on you.

The Swench is and was made by Curtis Wright Aeronautical Corp, They still sell them, mostly to the government and to oil rigs and the like. They seem to hit differently than a powered impact and will break loose stuff that an equavalent air powered impact won't touch.

The Curtis Wright website has a little about them.

They are very expensive new. The ones on Ebay are usually old, having an address with the old postal zone numbers, which went out of use about 1962.

They are true impacts and you should use impact sockets on them, or you might break the regular sockets.

Charles

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