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Rubber glue or vulcanizing

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550Doug

08-20-2004 06:41:05




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I have an old garden tractor with the back wheels rusted on and cannot be removed - I"ve tried pullers and bottle jacks but no go. The one tire has a 1.5 inch gash on the inside sidewall. I"d like to find a rubber product that will glue or vulcanize the hole shut. I"ve tried a series of plugs but they eventually leak since the tire flexes.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks




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Leland

08-20-2004 19:03:23




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to 550Doug, 08-20-2004 06:41:05  
Doug you could dismount tire with rim on tractor and remount a new tire this is what I would do. or you could break bead and buy a patch called a boot and then put in a tube but a new tire would mount just as easy .



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Fred OH

08-20-2004 08:07:24




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to 550Doug, 08-20-2004 06:41:05  
I've known farmers that have bolted a patch inside of a tire...they used carriage bolts with the heads inside so that it wouldn't cut the tube and flat washers and nuts on the outside. It never ceases to amaze me what a person can come up with to get around one of lifes obstacles...if a person can just think and reason. I just read last night (Reminisce magazine) that during the 2nd world war that you had to get a war rationing coupon to get a new tire...and it wasn't an easy thing to get one. Back then a trip was measured by how many flats or breakdowns you had along the way. We had a tire vulcanizing shop in my home town when I was a kid...but I haven't heard or seen one since. Fred OH

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ShepFL

08-21-2004 17:33:17




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to Fred OH, 08-20-2004 08:07:24  
How was this done? I have a buddy today questioning me and I had no answers. He has a 1948 Farmall H with original rubber. Said a big gash on the sidewall was repaired with what looks like hand applied rubber packed into the gash.

Any ideas or comments would be welcome.



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Fred OH

08-21-2004 19:20:46




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to ShepFL, 08-21-2004 17:33:17  
Shep...I was only in the vulcanizing shop once or twice as His son and I were friends. But as I saw it...he cleaned the bad spot on the tire and then put a piece of rubber over it and then clamped a electric heater over it that melted new rubber into the bad spot. That"s as close to the proceedure as I remember and probably missed it a mile. One thing I do remember is the heated rubber smelled good. Sorry I can"t help more. Fred OH

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Matt Clark

08-26-2004 11:45:52




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to Fred OH, 08-21-2004 19:20:46  
FredOH: actually, you're not far off. My company, that's what we do...stick new rubber to old. What you are referring to is actually still done, but most on large off the road (OTR) tires. They literally pound (with a maul, sometimes) uncured rubber into place and apply heat either with infrared lamps or clamp-on heaters to cured it. It can be "carved" to shape with knives or grinders to be more pleasing to they eye. There's a LOT of $$$ in that portion or our business...

This can sometimes save or extend the life of a $5000 or $10000 tire, at a tidy profit for the shop.

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Farmall Nut

08-20-2004 07:51:17




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 Re: Rubber glue or vulcanizing in reply to 550Doug, 08-20-2004 06:41:05  
I change tires while leaving the rims mounted all the time. I see no reason to remove the rim from the tractor unless the rim needs to be replaced.



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