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steveb1

10-09-2005 14:46:34




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Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can set this last pole for a barn I am building? I was able to set 3 corner poles 6' deep and my last one I am not so lucky. At about 2' I hit a huge shale slab. I cannot attempt to to move it. I am working with a 3 point backhoe of pretty big size. Can I drill the rock and set a peg, set the pole on the peg and fill hole with concrete? Any Ideas would help. I do not have alot of money for this project so boring a pole hole is out of the question.

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David - OR

10-11-2005 06:19:54




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
The shale can probably supply adequate support for the weight of the building. Frost should not be a problem provided it is a solid piece of shale and the pole is tightly down on it.

Of more concern is the lack of embedment. Pole buildings depend to some extent on the resistance of the embedded pole to forces perpendicular to the hole. With the pole only two feet down, the pole has less resistance to wind forces on the building wall that would tend to push the pole over.

It is possible to detail the walls and roof/ceiling to provide additional lateral resistance to make up for your "bad" pole, but this depends on many factors (building size, location, exposure, siding, roofing, girt arrangement, etc.

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SteveB1

10-11-2005 04:15:11




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
My poles are 16' high and 16" thick. This what the phone co gave me. I am going to cut down to 14' for finished height. The only reason why I was concerned is because they are heavy buggers.
Thanks sTeve



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I wouldn't worry about

10-11-2005 03:08:29




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
getting through the shale. The building will hold the pole in place. As far as frost goes , I don't believe it's going to pick the shale. At least not in my experiences. That shale makes a darn good footer. I can see where the utility companies would drill and pin a pole. Nothing is stopping the pole from tipping. But,you will have a building attached to your pole.



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jfp

10-12-2005 15:16:54




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to I wouldn't worry about , 10-11-2005 03:08:29  
I would not worry either unless he is in tornado country.



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wdtom

10-10-2005 18:01:05




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
With 3 poles in 6' do you need to worry about the fourth? It would be better if it was in more than 2', but maybe not necessary.



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Bill in NorthCentral PA

10-10-2005 04:51:51




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
We have run into this problem several times. With shale, we try to jackhammer to the frost line (3" here). With more stubborn rock, we have built stainless steel brackets that we anchored (expansion or epoxy) to hte rock, set in the pole, and through-bolt the post.

Good luck,

Bill



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jfp

10-09-2005 16:58:18




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
Sounds like you got the right idea. Do you know anyone that works on the railroad? They use an e-poxy cement for gluing rebar into stone then pour concrete and it holds. It works good down to 40 degrees F dries in less than 1 hour at that temp. Maybe you can call them. If no help then call Osmose RR in Madison Wis. Then also, you could just get about 4ea 3/4 redheads 6 inch long bore holes and anchor the pole before pouring concrete and that would probably hold it. You didn't say how tall you are making this. I forgot to say you need some angle iron with holes in both angles for the redheads and lag bolts to the pole.

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Jay87T

10-09-2005 16:48:50




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to steveb1, 10-09-2005 14:46:34  
well when the phone company has to place poles in rocky areas, they do use pegs and drill down into the rock, then they place some sort of bracket around the base of the pole, when I drove up north here In Ontario thats all they did since its all rock up there, dont see how you have much of a choice unless you have dynamite.
Jay



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Ratmo

10-11-2005 01:04:43




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 Re: telephone pole depth in reply to Jay87T, 10-09-2005 16:48:50  
If you have three at 6' the fourth one must be a slab of rock. Drill through the rock, the take a rock bar to widen hole.



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