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Dennis Minn

10-24-2006 13:48:47




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For those that have run into a similar situation, I am requesting comments, good, bad, or otherwise regarding replacing the exhaust system of a Dodge Ram 2500 with the Cummins 24v diesel. So far both the inlet and outlet of the muffler have rotted off. I have the down-pipe from the turbo to the cat(?) intact, but rusty. Has anyone had good luck with stainless exhausts from Gibson? Flowmaster? Others? Please feel free to add any thoughts. The claims of better performance and cooler exhaust temperatures, are they true? I am leaning towards an entire system replacement, I think the front portion of the existing exhaust may only last another year or so. Thanks in advance, Dennis.

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rtluft

10-30-2006 18:51:35




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
Rip Rook @ Source Automotive has a good product at a good price. I installed one on my 2001 Ram and it fit well sounds like stock but slightly louder when towing.



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Dennis Minn

10-26-2006 17:30:16




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 thanks for response in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
Mike M, 806man, Ron in Nebr, Railhead, Tim C, lucass:
All, I thank you for your input,it appears that finances have driven my choices. I ended up purchasing just enough clamps, pipe, muffler to re-install what came as stock. It was not my first or second choice, but that's how the pennies slid out of the piggy bank. By the way, Dodge did not have the correct clamps for a stock exhaust. Book said so, but the clamps were around 2 and half inches when the pipes measured four. So, for now, I had to slide this one past the checkbook. Just for fun, the garage door torsion spring let loose as the door shut, effectively trapping the Dodge inside. Maybe the Dodge, that never sees indoors, had a small chat with the door springs. Just one more expense and item to repair....the way it goes sometimes. Thanks again for your answers and experiences, Dennis.

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Mike M

10-26-2006 11:45:19




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
They must ALL fall off as noisy as those things are running around. I don't think anyone even runs a muffler.



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806man

10-24-2006 15:55:20




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
I have a '93 Dodge Cummins. I had a few rusty places in the factory exhaust so I changed it to a complete Flowmaster turbo back exhaust kit. I got mine from JEGS. I am really pleased with it. Truck sounds really good with that Flowmaster muffler and does not sound so "red - neck" as those guys running a straight pipe (plus it is legal). Seems like it cost about $400.00 by the time I got it installed. I can tell an increase in the pulling power and my diesel has never had the screw turned up on it. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Ron in Nebr

10-24-2006 17:12:46




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to 806man, 10-24-2006 15:55:20  
You're right there- the flowmaster muffler is a good peice and will quiet them down without adding much if any restriction. It does add a little more expense, weight, and just one more peice with two more joints to go bad, however.

Like I said in my earlier post, a straight pipe WILL be louder than stock, although mine's not as loud as a gasser with glasspacks(which DOES sound "redneck" I guess) during normal driving conditions. Kind of a quiet rumble unless I'm really hard on the pedal and then it's about like the glasspacks is the best way to describe it.

In some areas, being "emissions legal" is important, while out here in the wilderness I've had my fuel checked at roadside checkpoints(to make sure I'm not running farm fuel on the road) but they've never once peeked underneath to check the exhaust. All depends on your location and what you can live with for sound, and what you want to spend. I have less than a hundred bucks in my system(two hundred counting downpipe from the turbo).

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railhead

10-24-2006 15:51:38




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
I bought one for my 99 3500 CTD off eBay from Idaho that was pre bent and ready to bolt on. It was NOT stainless but thick and I have seen no sign of rot on it. I opted to have them delete the muffler entirely. Mine is a 4 inch steel tube from the turbo flange (which is about 3.5 inches) to the back. It seemed to help mine....but it is a little louder. I love it just the way it is now. I wouldn"t put the stock exhaust back on it. I think it cost like 279 plus shipping. May be cheaper now that they are so popular and may be more people making them. Took about an hour to take the stock off and put this one on. It worked great. Just have a small air impact hammer ready to take the old one off and don"t be afraid to cut some joints. I figured if anyone ever wanted the stock one I could MIG it back.

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Ron in Nebr

10-24-2006 15:30:55




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
The better performance and cooler exhaust temp claims are very much true. How much improvement you'll see will depend on how restrictive your factory system was.

There's lots of internet message boards dedicated to deisel engined pickups and improving their longevity/performance.

Myself I drive a 98 Chevy dually with the older 6.5l deisel, but I'll share my exhaust experiences with ya just for informations sake, and you can make your own decisions from there: Mine came stock with a 2 1/2" system. I replaced it all from the turbo on back with 3 1/2. I bought an 8ft peice of straight aluminized exhaust tubing from a local shop, and three 90-degree mandrel bent bends from Summit Racing and a mandrel-bent 3inch downpipe from an aftermarket diesel place. Welded it all up myself, was an easy job, it fit well, and has gone 3 years no with no trouble. It's common on turbo diesels to just run straight pipes(no muffler or cat) so that's what I did. The turbo basically acts as a muffler and deadens the sharp exhaust noise. It's about as loud as a gas motor with glasspack mufflers.

It helped towing performance a ton, and although I didnt have an exhaust gas temp guage with the stock system, others have said it helped that a lot too.

Not sure if you're wanting to go this route, but it's an option, even if you have a local exhaust shop do it(although legally they may resist removing the cat converter- which on a deisel is really just a "soot trap" anyway).

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Tim Casbolt

10-24-2006 14:34:29




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  
When I replaced the exhaust on my '91, the parts came from the local auto parts store. Nothing special, just replacement parts. Was still intact when I sold the truck 5 years later.



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lucasss

10-24-2006 13:59:00




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 Re: ot: Dodge Diesel Exhaust Fell Off in reply to Dennis Minn, 10-24-2006 13:48:47  

stainless is best,aluminized 2nd



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