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ric1

03-05-2007 09:13:46




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i have a open faced shed 64 ft long i need to put spouting on should it be where the water runs from one side all the way across or high in the center draining to both sides thanks rick




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Gravy

03-06-2007 06:39:15




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
Whatever you do, position the gutters so that if a big slab of ice slides down the roof it won"t hang up on the gutters and pull them off the building. Keep the gutters an inch or two below the plane of the roof, especially on metal roofs.



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NE IA Dave

03-05-2007 19:58:53




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
400 sq ft per drop is a very good general rule of thumb, seldom is this used. Most folks think like using a extention cord, you can circle the earth and it will still work. If you have sparrows, trees, or dislike the cleaning gutter job, I would probably put in three. Not that it is needed, just if one gets plugged the water will most likley drain.

Klower in Dubuque Ia, is the biggest in our area for making eve spouts. The K style is the most popular, and a eve bracket is the simplest to install by yoursef. We usualy avoid the stupid splices, just overlap the joints. We also use some over the roof hangers to sweeten the deal. Some company makes a open sided down spout that will never plug with leaves or ice. I can not think of the company right now.

A inch per ten is a good rule of thumb, any steeper and it does not carry the crud.

I know that continuous gutters made on the job site is popular, We get numerous calls to fix them each year. They tend to be pretty light duty. Most of those companies are a new good deal, yesterday I was selling used cars and today I is a selling seamless gutters. Usualy refered to as the trailer house version of eve spouts in our area. The wind always goes to a trailer court first, and a seamless gutter next.

Most gutter failure is designed into the instalation. Cost cutting, lack of experiance, and hit and run contractors are the biggest factors.

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Dave Anderson

03-05-2007 17:00:34




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
If you have a tin or metal roof, it don't matter what the length is or what the slope is, what matters is the aspect is. If it gets the afternoon sun, and the ice slides off'n it, its goin to take your gutter with it!



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03-05-2007 13:22:05




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
Your gutter may be 64 feet long , but how far up the roof does it go? If it's no more than 15 feet , you will be fine with 1 - 2 x 3 downspout at one end. You will need slight pitch(just off level is fine). Your fascial board may not run in your favor. In that case , you may want to run the gutter both ways. Or , maybe you don't have flat fascial board , and you need to use strap type hangers. Note: If your roof is more than 15 feet up the gable(lets say 20 feet), you can also use 3 x 4 downspout(commercial) in a residential gutter("A" style only). Everything mentioned above is for strait run SEAMLESS gutter. If you're going to have seams , you may want to add another downspout. Either one on each end , and pitch in both directions. Or , pitch in one direction , and add a downspout in the middle. I install gutters for a living. And what I just told you will work. Should you go by what the book calls for , add a downspout every 30 feet. Every 30 feet is way overkill.

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Roger in Iowa

03-05-2007 11:11:19




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
If you have trees whose leaves will get in the gutter, I would not do it.

I put pea gravel over plastic along where my roof drops water from a 2' overhang. Drains away from there.

Roger in Iowa



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RickL

03-05-2007 10:43:38




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
That all depends on where you want the water. On my garage 54 ft long it all goes to one end double drops. On my shop 75 ft long it also goes to one end and double drops.



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Blue3992 ( N Illinois)

03-05-2007 09:58:22




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
Search on Google for gutter installation calculations. I think gutters are suposed to drop 1 inch for every 10 feet of length. Also, I think a rule of thumb is don't run gutters any more than 40 feet or so. So I think you would be better off splitting the gutter in the middle.



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Simon Ridout

03-05-2007 09:54:58




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 Re: spouting on my shed in reply to ric1, 03-05-2007 09:13:46  
What is the area of roof being drained? This will determine the size of guttering required and whether one or two outlets/spouts/downpipes are required.



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