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tcw-3 oil in chainsaw?

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midlam

06-06-2007 11:03:24




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can tcw-3 oil be used in chainsaws? some brands are multiuse and seem to indicate its ok. There are also universal oils that claim to be ok for all marine and chainsaws.




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kmm

06-08-2007 16:38:38




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
I agree with Mark. The TCW is for water cooled 2-strokes. I have an Echo weed trimmer in wich I used tcw-3 for several years and now the trimmer is almost junk. After extended use it seems to get really hot and loose power.

I now use the opti in chainsaws, trimmers and save the Johnson TCW-3 for the outboard.



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edj856

06-07-2007 06:25:38




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
You shouldn't use TCW-3 in your lawn equipment. It's for outboard's. I use Lucas semi-synthetic oil. When I was landscaping and used the TCW-3, it would clog up the muffler and spark arrestor every couple weeks.



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lucassss

06-07-2007 05:05:45




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  

tcw3 is for engines topping out at about 5000 rpm. most of the good saws run 12000 rpms, so will not stick,lube, to the crank/piston at high rpm. stihl,echo and husky oil mix are high grade synthetic and will work well in the fast rpm stuff. lucas



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dds-inc

06-06-2007 20:32:47




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
I stick whatever i can put in it. I have a weedeater that's been through heck and back, and has had about 25 years worth of oil-regulation changes.

Everybody's ana! nowadays.



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MarkB_MI

06-06-2007 19:28:00




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
Don't do it. The TCW-3 and TC-3 oils are formulated differently because the water-cooled two strokes run much cooler than air-cooled engines.

I use "Opti-2" in my equipment. It is neither TC-3 nor TCW-3 rated. It is rated ISO-EG-D+, which is an entirely different rating system from the "TC" classifications.



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Russ from MN

06-06-2007 16:32:19




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
I have also wondered about that,but have you ever seen TCA-3? Haven't had a problem with it yet. Russ



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bo

06-06-2007 16:20:27




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
Yeh..what they said. I also read that you shouldn't use the stuff. Guess what I use. Yup..TCW3...in everything..have been doing it for years and now I find out that I shouldn't. Now just what does that say?



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oldrustycars

06-06-2007 13:48:58




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
Personally, I would only use the pre measured bottles of oil for the ratio needed in my 2 cycle equipment. Why take a chance? That stuff messes up so often anyways, I dont want to wonder if it was because I tried a different oil. I use the Stihl branded oil from my local shop.



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don t-9n180179

06-06-2007 11:47:04




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to midlam, 06-06-2007 11:03:24  
I think I read sometime back on this site that you shouldn't used marine 2-cycle oil in chainsaws, weed-wackers, etc. Something to do w/marine is water cooled. Whether true or not, it made sense to me. HTH.....don t. .....



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mark

06-07-2007 10:51:25




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to don t-9n180179, 06-06-2007 11:47:04  
I'm getting to the point where I avoid most of these threads because of the controversy they seem to generate.

I'll just tell you this: In the 30 years since I left home and got on my own, I have owned 3 chainsaws, exactly 2 LawnBoy mowers, and 4 or 5 weedeaters. I sold one of the saws because it was too big (056 Stihl) and still own the other two, an 028 and a 017. Never, ever, has there been an engine failure with any of my 2 cycle tools...EVER! My first lawnboy mower suffered the ravages of a teenage son and the deck/frame were trashed....the engine ran fine when I junked it about 15 years ago. I still have the Lawnboy I bought to replace the first one. The weedeaters I have bought all ran fine.....everything else falls apart. My outboard is a 1950-52 Goodyear 5 horsepower, made by Evinrude....it runs like a new one. I use a 40:1 mix in everything and have bought every brand of oil you can imagine...mostly quarts of 'outboard' oil. Sure as h*ll can't prove it by me that any harm has been done. I always figured if the oil was fit to run in an $8,000 outboard, it was good enough for my $79 weedeater. I have never read anything about the LawnBoy/Evinrude Oil Refinery (both were made by Outboard Marine Corp..OMC). Nor have I ever heard of of the Stihl Oil Refinery. Fact is, these branded oils are made by some major producer and squirted into their little green or orange cans. Go ahead and tell me it's all made to every makers secret formula and that is the key. Okay, key to what? Based on my 30 years of experience, all of the brands and TYPES have worked equally well. The stuff I have now...don't even know the brand (or care) is a bottle of red colored oil in one of those squeezy bottles and was bought at Lowe's. I just happened to be there shopping and needed some 2 cycle oil. I've mixed 3 or 4 gallons with it and no gremlins have crawled out the can yet and the mower and weedeater run like always. Go figure. I just wonder why if everybody is so uptight about buying branded 2 cycle oil.....why the h*ll don't don't they buy 'Oldsmobile Oil' or 'Buick Oil' or Toyota Oil, or Lincoln Oil or whatever brand vehicle they drive? Oh, that's different! Yeah, right...LOL!

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oldrustycars

06-07-2007 17:10:59




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 Re: tcw-3 oil in chainsaw? in reply to mark, 06-07-2007 10:51:25  
I dont care about the brand, I just like the fact that its already measured for 1 gallon of gas.



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