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Up North Louie

11-24-2007 09:51:57




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I have a Farmall 560 gasser, which puts out a little blue smoke and likes to foul plugs. My cousin worked for Harvester for a lot of years, both as a mechanic and salesman. He indicates it likely needs valves and rings done. I can probably get him to do the work in the spring, but he says we would likely need a sleeve puller. How much does such a thing cost? More than it would to just take it to an established shop where I don't know who they are, what they know, etc. Is there another way to get a sleeve out? I have never thought about doing anything like this.

I do know that once you split a tractor, it makes sense to look at everything and fix that which needs to be fixed, so I am planning to have the money on hand to do it.
I look forward to whatever guidance I can get. Thank you in advance,

Louie

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El Toro

11-25-2007 08:49:07




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 Re: Sleeve puller in reply to Up North Louie, 11-24-2007 09:51:57  
I would follow what Glen & the Weldin Man suggested. You probably will need cam bearings
and you need to have that crankshaft measured for wear. Hal



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Glen Hayward

11-24-2007 11:27:33




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 Re: Sleeve puller in reply to Up North Louie, 11-24-2007 09:51:57  
If one or more sleeves are badly scored and assuming thet are "DRY" sleeves take the block to a reputable Machine Shop to have the Sleeve(s) pressed out and new ones pressed in. They will also machine the sleeve(s) to the proper "DECK" height and "RIGID-HONE" the proper piston to cylinder wall clearances.This must be done to ensure the job is done properly and ensure long engine life! Also since you need head work done you will be looking a Machine Shop anyways so see if they will give a better deal! Ask around to "Hot-Rodders" and Antique Tractor or Truck Guys to find the best Machine Shop in your area!

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Weldin man

11-24-2007 11:45:55




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 Re: Sleeve puller in reply to Glen Hayward, 11-24-2007 11:27:33  
560 gas definately has dry sleeves.I rebuilt one last week,definately not a job to try if you don't have the proper tools. The overhaul kit for this engine is in the $800.00 to $1000.00 range depending if you go with step-head or fire crater pistons,plus you will need a valve job and probably the head milled.I personally do not do inframe overhauls because you cannot change the crank seals and properly check the crank. It is also very hard to get the block cleaned properly too. Just my opinion,hope it helps.

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zach from tx

11-24-2007 10:59:17




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 Re: Sleeve puller in reply to Up North Louie, 11-24-2007 09:51:57  
After you pull the head and pan, take the rod caps off, drive the rod and piston out through the bottom with a hammer and a block of wood. Replace the rings. Apply a coat of light oil. Then use a ring squeezer or compresser (same thing, you can pick one up at an auto parts store for 25 or 30 dollars or borrow one) to keep the rings squeezed tight around the piston. Then use the hammer and block of wood to tap the piston and rod through the top of the block. Don"t need a sleeve puller unless it needs new sleeves, don"t have to split the tractor unless you are planning clutch, TA, or possibly rear main seal repairs. Check rod and main bearings, front seals, gaskets, etc.

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northiowa

11-24-2007 10:19:42




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 Re: Sleeve puller in reply to Up North Louie, 11-24-2007 09:51:57  
You do not need a sleeve puller to do the valves and rings, also you do not need to split the tractor to do the valves and rings. Only if you want to put in new sleeves and pistons, you need a puller. I have heard of mechanics pulling the rod and piston and taking the piston off the rod and putting it up from the bottom with the rings still in the piston and pushing up on the sleeve with and extended rod on a jack to push up on the piston thus pushing the sleeve out with the piston. I dont know if it would work or not.

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