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6 pt or 12 pt sockets?

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Gerald

07-23-2001 18:16:18

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What is the better socket in SAE 1" and greater
with a 3/4" drive and why?
Thanks.

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Nolan

07-25-2001 06:54:00

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Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Gerald, 07-23-2001 18:16:18

Prefer 6 point sockets because I don't like rounded off nuts.

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Tom

07-24-2001 17:46:06

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Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Gerald, 07-23-2001 18:16:18

I always get 6 point, they round off less nuts and capscrews than 12 point. On box wrenches though I go for the 12 point as you can use them is less space than a 6 point, no ratchet and the 6 point needs a greater swing.

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Tyler(WA)

07-24-2001 07:39:52

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Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Gerald, 07-23-2001 18:16:18

I don't buy 12 pt. sockets for my 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" drives.... unless I need one for a 12 pt. nut (like yesterday.)

But.... for 3/4" drive, there is a bit more steel around the edge anyway and you rarely see excessive torques with big bolts. The added dexterity of having 30 degree increment of travel with long wrench handles is a big plus without great fear of busting a socket.

The smaller ones are different. You get some pretty high torques for the small amount of steel in a smaller socket.

This is just my opinion but I've been a bus mechanic and used everything up to 1" drive on a daily basis. Where I would routinely bust 12 pt. sockets in the smaller sizes, I don't think I ever busted one in 3/4" or 1" drive.

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John Ne.

07-23-2001 20:42:52

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Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Gerald, 07-23-2001 18:16:18

My twelve point sockets stay in the tool box til I run into a twelve point bolt/nut. The greater wall thickness gives strength in a six point socket. This is an old tractor site, right? Fasteners on machinery that have been tight for 30+ years, are going to be tight, so go with the six point. John in Nebr.

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dell (WA)

07-23-2001 18:58:21

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Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Gerald, 07-23-2001 18:16:18

Gerald..... ..if'n I have a choice (and sometime ya don't), its always 6 pointer sockets no matter what the drive size. I've rounded off too many rusty nuts/boltheads with 12 pointers..... ..Dell

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Sage

07-24-2001 00:27:00

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Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to dell (WA), 07-23-2001 18:58:21

I have to respectfully disagree with the first two gentleman's comments. With 3/4" drive tools a 12 point socket allows for a greater range of motion using a breaker bar with a cheater pipe. You can get a bite every 30 degrees with 12 point sockets where a 6 point socket only allows you to get a bite every sixty degrees. Most newer 12 point sockets utilize snap-ons flank drive design, which grabs a fastener by its strongest point instead of on its corners like older sockets did. With the flank drive design the 12 point functions somewhat as a 6 point, but with a greater range of motion. I love six points in 1/4",3/8", and 1/2" drive, but would go with a newer set of 12 point sockets using the flank drive design for a 3/4" ratchet or breaker bar to get the greater range of motion often needed when using a breaker bar and a cheater pipe.

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Cliff Neubauer

07-24-2001 06:01:05

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Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Sage, 07-24-2001 00:27:00

Yes the 12 points limit use with a breaker bar but we also have a 3/4" impact wrench and I wouldn't want to stick a 12 point socket on it, but our cheap set of regular 6 point sockets haven't cracked yet.

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Brian G. NY

07-24-2001 05:10:12

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Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Sage, 07-24-2001 00:27:00

Calling yourself "Sage" appears not to be an idle boast. I agree; I use a lot of 6 pt. sockets in the 1/2" and smaller drives where they are very effective on old rusty stuff like tractors and farm equip. However, my experience has been that with the 3/4" drive stuff, there is rarely any need for the extra grip and the 12 pt. gives much more range of movement with the extra length of the breaker bars in this size.

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To Brian G.

07-24-2001 07:21:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Brian G. NY, 07-24-2001 05:10:12

Sage just happens to be my first name, not an idle boast or whatever you think. Don't be quite so quick to judge somebody. I am just telling the guy my opinion so write your own opinion instead and mind your own business.

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Jim WI

07-24-2001 10:26:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to To Brian G., 07-24-2001 07:21:05

Sage...

Brian was paying you a compliment -- read his post again.

He said that calling yourself Sage was not an idle boast -- in other words, the name fit well.

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Brian G.

07-25-2001 06:57:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Jim WI, 07-24-2001 10:26:56

Thanks Jim, Yes, Sage It was meant as a compliment, as I agree with your findings. Brian G.

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MarkB

07-24-2001 03:42:58

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Re: Re: Re: 6 pt or 12 pt sockets? in reply to Sage, 07-24-2001 00:27:00

I agree with using 12 points, especially if you don't have a 3/4 drive ratchet. If you put a eight foot cheater bar on your breaker bar, chances are that you won't have enough room to swing it.

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