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Jim B. in OH

02-22-2008 13:56:33




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I am looking to get a pump this spring to pump water from our creek for the garden and livestock. Looking at Honda WB20. Anyone have experience with these? Will be filling 300 gallon tank and would like to run sprinklers but don't know if there will be enough pressure. Thanks, Jim




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buickanddeere

02-23-2008 15:52:18




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Around here we drive a ground rod for an electrical system. And shut off the power when working on equipment. A gfi would also provide protection if you insist on working with exposed electrical equipment.
My house has an electric water pump and we have been safe so far. So are millions of other users.



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buickanddeere

02-23-2008 05:53:25




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Do you currently own a portable AC generator? If not maybe this would be the time to purchase one. #1 to pump water. #2 to keep the pipes from freezing, the prevent the basement from flooding, keep the toilets flushing and the icecream frozen.



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Kemper

02-23-2008 11:10:37




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 Re: Water pump in reply to buickanddeere, 02-23-2008 05:53:25  
Uhh lets see, water,electricity,pumping water out of the creek,bad combination, use a gas powered pump or 12 volt dc pump,that way when your intake plugs up with mud, you won't get the shock of your life when your down there fooling with the pump.



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T_Bone

02-22-2008 22:24:25




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Hi Jim,

Theres a couple of ways to set up this system that works well.

I would not direct pump out of the creek. I would dig a hole about 2ft away down to the water level or deeper, the deeper the better, add perferated a bore pipe, fill the outside hole with small rocks, then pump out of the bore. This helps keep all trash out of the pump plus will filter the water quality to near drinking water standards if covered.

Covered is out of sight, out of mind.

You can get a Flojet 12vdc pump, 5gpm@40psi, about 10/lbs, cost about $105, and use a lawn & garden battery to power the pump. The battery is small light weight that can be carried easy and will pump about 100gals before needing recharged,(I use this method alot while boondock camping using a solar charger). Or you can use a 12v 105amp/hr deepcycle battery that will pump about 10hrs before needing recharged. A 2amp 115v charger, about $20, will recharge the deepcycle battery in approx 25hrs. If you need longer battery pumping time then you can add another 12v deepcycle battery in parralel.

Do not use a Surflo 12v pump as they are now cheap made and won't last very long.

At the cost of gasoline, a 12v pump would be more cost effective at this time. Add a small 50w PV solar panel and it would really be cheaper overall.

You can then use a 115/230vac pump to pressure feed off your cistern tank. You'll need to calculate your pump volume(gpm) requirement based upon your supply volume(cistern size in gallons) and your desired flow rate(total nozzle volume(gpm) demand).

Piping size is calculated on the volume, pressure and distance required at the point of use. This is really important at distances over 500ft.

Use a pressure control to control the pump on/off to refill the stock tank. Add a float valve, a toilet tank valve works well, to shut off the water and that builds pressure to the pump/piping thus shuts off the pump when full. The 12v pump has/can have a built in pressure switch, no extra cost.

A good formula to remember: LxWxH=ci/231=gallons or radius squared X 3.1416 X length=ci/231=gallons

T_Bone

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luapp

02-22-2008 19:01:36




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
go to agrisupply.com they have some good prices on gas powerd pumps.item #63269 2inch 5.5 hp 160gpm. $230.00 plus shipping. the motor is a honda copy. we have two work verry well run verry nice and quite. the plastic pump is a pacer.very good pumps. the pump is usa made. the engine has a cast iron sleeve just like a honda looks like on too. good on gas



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JT

02-22-2008 18:34:53




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Do not know what kind of pump that is, but if it is a clear water pump, you do not want that. Pumping out of a creek, with dirt, sand, rocks, mud or such, you want a minimum of a semi-trash pump or a regular trash pump, these will handle that debri that will come out of a creek.
Jim



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old

02-22-2008 16:48:54




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Be sure you check your state laws before you do that. Some states frown on doing that and others don't care. I know about it because we get gravel out of the creek I have and we have to have permits to do so



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Jim B. in OH

02-22-2008 16:27:39




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Bill in Colo, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
About a quarter of the time I will be using it no where around power, too bad, electric ones are a bit cheaper. Jim



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gun guru

02-22-2008 15:40:18




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
I have a 1.5Hp Honda water pump, gasoline 4 stroke engine. It pumps about 30-40GPM. It works very well. I paid about $375 from Northern tool, comes with inlet hose, hose clamps fittings. Just need a garden hose for the outlet, or bigger hose. In fact I hadnt started it since 2004 and it fired right up with about 20 pulls and a little ether. I dont know what a WB20 Honda is.



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buickanddeere

02-22-2008 14:37:45




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 Re: Water pump in reply to Jim B. in OH, 02-22-2008 13:56:33  
Is there electricity on the place?



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